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that was forced on some cheap androids between version 3 and 4.

after 4.4 they dialled it back to instead of required now they only apply some seven dark patterns to try to trick users into thinking it is mandatory.

same effect to most users, zero regulatory consequences


and companies copying features no user asked for from the top competition is even more expensive and dumb.

it's like gnome giving up all its good differentiating features during the great rewrite just to mimic osx, no matter they were in a cargo cult mindset copying even the flaws, shortcomings and bugs.

here Mozilla is copying Chrome's abusive forceful use of google's services from the UI, no matter if the user wants or not


good guerrilla marketing though.

everyone is again talking about recently-forgotten 5G.


wait, if i read that rigth it will just show a notification. what's wrong with that?

I hate and never buy apple devices for many reasons, but telling me the device was tampered with, with no side effect (heck, they used to brick devices before for even less than replacing the display)... but I mean, if they really cared about the users they would also show the new serial, hash, whatever they track so that the user can keep the same tampering protection after they got one replacement


> wait, if i read that rigth it will just show a notification. what's wrong with that?

The criticism is directed at the way it is designed, which many see as a deliberate way to harass the user through poor user experience:

- It will show the notifications for 4 days on the lockscreen.

- It will then show the notifications for 15 days on the Settings app.

- It will then show the notification forever in the Settings > General > About section.

Does anyone really like a notification that is persistent and does not go away even if you want it to?

All they need to do is show it once. And if they wanted to, create a new section in Setting called "Hardware" that would then display the hardware details of replaceable parts (ofcourse, it is a different debate that Apple claims there are no user replaceable parts).


again, i hate apple. but you are being disingenious.

if I replaced your screen with a malicious one that stores images and touches to later steal your pins, i could just wait the low time limit, give it to you and hope you never checks the buried down setting screen.

this way it brings the evil-maid-attack down to zero, as the user have 15 days to see the atack. and the forever-setting is only meant for ppl buying a new device.


> again, i hate apple. but you are being disingenious.

> if I replaced your screen with a malicious one that stores images and touches to later steal your pins,

Wow, what an example - and you say I am being disingenuous? /s

How many times has your phone or laptop been hacked by a hardware, when software malware or cracks are so much easier? Are you even aware that all iDevices so far already have a hardware bug which can be more easily exploited to hack those devices?

The simple fact is that I am criticising Apple's "dark design" pattern that leads to a poor user experience (and which is also meant to scare ignorant users to get repairs / replacements done only by Apple at an exorbitant price).

A simple alternative to it is to create a new section in Settings app and display all parts info there. And publicise it. If Apple and Microsoft can spend money publicising "dark mode" as some great feature, they can also spend a little to publicise this new section and educate their users on verifying whether the parts are compatible.


my hot take: this is all because we are engineers designing social networks.

think about it. email, twitter, etc. it all works like any network protocol meant for machines. it is cheap to spam. there is no middle ground between anonymity and spam. each node must handle their own peers. etc.

what if it was designed by actual sociologists or people that actually deal with human, instead of engineer. one would hope in such world tweeter would reduce exposition to all those accounts, because people around me that I trust do not engage with or outright block them. also I could have means to benefit of all that network without rendering all my information to the service. etc.

in summary, we are to blame for most of it.


who pay for a service like what they offer?!

makes no sense. unless they have the best salesman in the universe for a very niche market like legal or health. is that the case?



lament not working on mesh networks and praying my failing will be cut short by the internet getting back up soon.

in other words, the same as everyone here.


why a state fed is making those predictions?


so after aplitting korea into north and south (as they are know all around the world), the US will again split north korea into west/east. will it be east korea? or north east korea?


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