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This sort of moral panic should be slapped down hard. The 1890s are over, and no, we don't need to protect our womenfolk from perverts who went to med school hoping for free gropes, no matter what races are involved.

It's time to take a deep breath and grow up.


I bought this when it came out, but thought it was horrible. The only good bit was the preface by one of the Unix authors (Ritchie?). The rest just seemed like whining by people that didn't really get the Unix philosophy.


I mean, you could say that everyone hates Nazi's because they don't really get Nazi philosophy.

Both your statement and my statement don't really mean anything.


Probably largely random. But beyond that, they sound like the diametric opposite of upstanding and boring citizens, so not really that surprising?


What from the article suggests that they are or aren't "upstanding and boring citizens", so what is the basis for your comment?

> Deandre Joshua’s body was found inside a burned car blocks from the protest. The 20-year-old was shot in the head before the car was torched.

> Darren Seals, shown on video comforting Brown’s mother that same night, met an almost identical fate two years later. The 29-year-old’s bullet-riddled body was found inside a burning car in September 2016.

How is that "random"?


This doesn't seem particularly unreasonable. This is a poor method of funding education, and rife with all sorts of potential for abuse. Not to mention that generally we want the poor kids in the district to be funded as well as the rich kids, and this mechanism will work against that.


From my perspective, news has become far more angry and vicious in the last couple of years. Writers who in the past were more or less kindly and factual (if sometimes a bit goofy) have started putting out really hateful stuff. It's shocking and, yes, depressing.


I moved from general news to specific news a couple of decades ago, mainly because I was in an opportune position to see how the general news just tend to attack something they have really thin knowledge but hold as absolute truth. This was back in the late 90s and even if the more specific news outlets that had the expertise and knowledge to explain and educate, would later come to "fix the holes" it was pretty much pointless since the majority of people would just ignore facts because the story was already told.

News has been angry and vicious for a long time, maybe it's just now starting to hurt everybody due to public exposure by social media, the vicious crews can now attack anybody who has a public surface, and everybody has public surface thanks to social media.


Shockingly ignorant, as usual.

No one in our society is "left to die" because they don't have a job.


Counterpoints:

* Opioid abuse and deaths due to the inability to find employment [1]

* Suicides directly related to the inability to find employment [2]

* Bonus round: deaths due to inability to afford medical insurance or medical care [3] [4]

So maybe not so ignorant. I hope this comment and associated citations helps you update your understanding of the situation!

[1] https://www.nber.org/aginghealth/2017no3/w23192.shtml (Are Opioid Deaths Affected by Macroeconomic Conditions?)

[2] https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1331677X.2018.1... (Does unemployment have asymmetric effects on suicide rates? Evidence from the United States: 1928–2013)

[3] https://www.factcheck.org/2017/07/deaths-health-care-bill/ (Deaths from a Health Care Bill?)

[4] https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/may... (Raul Labrador's claim that no one dies from lack of health care access: Pants on Fire)


I'm aware of these, and to a degree suffer from them directly--I just don't think "left to die" is an appropriate description. Furthermore, the group most affected by these issues, aging white males, are also the group AOC stands most ready to throw under the bus. That is, I think she's a hypocrite on this subject.

In any case, hypocrites come and go, but these problems are indeed very important and in need of some organized solutions. Our "oppressive" traditions and social structures have been cast aside, and many jobs have been outsourced to elsewhere. I'm watching the twenty-somethings around me try to deal with this wonderful new society, and it's very sad.

In my work, I like to get the new systems working before deleting the old ones...


Moving towards Medicare For All is bootstrapping a new system before tearing down the old one, as is many progressive policies (labor regulations, unions, etc).


Went on a job-hunting trip there a couple of years ago. Certainly many nice things about it. But after considering its problems, and the local toxic politics that appear to stand in the way of progress towards solutions, we nope'd out.


Been living and working on the east side (Redmond/Bellevue/Kirkland) for the past 10 years. I haven't noticed the Seattle issues spilling over. Although I'm sure that some people reading this will be able to come up with random anecdotes of their own.


My alternative is to think carefully before hitting return. As a bonus, this works for other commands, too.

Also, '\rm', as many distributions insist on aliasing 'rm' by default.


Maybe so, but I still want a surgeon who's going to get the job done.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-yo...


That's completely fine. I would never say that the stoner video gamer should be your surgeon. I just don't think it's fair to call such a person "lazy" and dismiss them out of hand, as so many are apt to do. This person needs help to find some meaning in their life and it is not at all trivial how to do this.

The more complicated society gets, the harder it is for people to keep up with it.


> the material changes this rise in anti-intellectual, conspiracy minded, anti-science free speech crusaders are attempting to cause

You lost me here, as in my experience, such activity has been in significant decline over my lifetime. We're actually living in a golden age where science and reason are ascendant.

Using this as a pretext for silencing people that don't agree with us seems particularly pernicious.


Did you respond to the wrong post? I'm certain I didn't mention silencing anyone.

In fact, when you take my post as a whole, not partially as you did, over and over again I gush about the importance and the incredible power of speech.


You're arguing for limiting speech. I'm arguing against.


> You're arguing for limiting speech.

I absolutely am not.


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