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The HN groupthink is to hate on anything Elon adjacent, satellite internet included.

It's not groupthink to believe that the guy sucks and is a threat to humanity. He constantly fights against the type of programs that could have possibly given us satellite internet, the same way we all get to enjoy GPS.

> It's not groupthink to believe that the guy sucks and is a threat to humanity.

Wow, that’s a wild misstatement; that is exactly groupthink nonsense.

You (people) loved him before he went in for Trump.


> You (people) loved him before he went in for Trump.

The inflection point for the public was Musk calling the cave diver, who helped orchestrate the rescue of a dozen trapped kids, a "pedo guy" and then doubling down on it, again, twice in front of his audience of millions.

The inflection point for anyone in tech with two eyes and a brain was Musk insisting his companies produce products that do more than they are, still to this day, capable of.

First was around 2018, the latter was ~2016, although anyone who was familiar with machine learning knew models were not as capable as Musk was insisting they were, and that the hyperloop was a scam.


Before he went in for Trump he created an obviously fake, insanely expensive system that could never work in practice (Hyperloop) just to slow down California rail projects

California rail projects fail because it’s California

Before he went in for Trump he was running a factory with an alarmingly high injury rate, where employees were regularly called the N-word, and union busting. People who liked him then weren't paying attention at all.

For what it's worth, I hated him well before he had anything to do with Trump. Most concretely when he called the cave diver a pedo for not wanting to use his stupid submarine, but I remember thinking that the Hyperloop thing he was proposing was pretty stupid too.

Oh, and when he lied about taking Tesla private so he could quickly boost the price of the stock. That sucks too. He's always sucked.


hopefully that include his business partners , airlines in this case.

And yet this discussion seems to be driven by a load of TSLA maximalists.

Elon is a busted flush. He promises the world, delivers somewhat less, somewhat late, if at all. And then layers it with deeply unpleasant politics.

Not groupthink, a sane reaction. Belated, but sane.


At one point on the internet PayPal was the most trusted way to send and receive money - at least you are limiting sharing your personal payment information with random companies on the internet who may or may not be compliant. Lately though, with companies like Stripe and Plaid making it nearly frictionless to add payments to your website just as PP once did, and things like Google & Apple pay - why is there a need to use PayPal anymore? Their support is notoriously awful, the product is slow and dated, as a consumer at least I see no reason to not stop using PayPal (and their subsidies) entirely.


Paypal G&S generally always gets money back if something went wrong on a p2p transaction. I've been scammed once or twice, but I always use G&S and have received my money back in full.

If you don't use that, then you're pretty much screwed with Paypal F&F, Zelle, Cashapp, Venmo etc. At least as far as I'm aware.


Venmo has a g&s equivalent. Not sure about the others


Venmo banned me for life because I and a friend both signed up a new account to try to send money to each other. The money disappeared, both accounts were locked and they told me I'm never allowed to open a Venmo account again because of my terribly fraudulent money laundering.


JSYK, Venmo and Paypal support a Visa+ Payname (configure it in each app). The Visa+ Payname thing is Visa's attempt to allow cross-app payments but AFAICT only Paypal and Venmo support it....

But if you ever need to send money to a Venmo account from Paypal, or receive money from a Venmo account in Paypal, you can do so with the Visa+ Payname.

I have some friends who are unbanked and banned from a lot of apps, this little work around has saved a few on occasion.


Venmo is owned by PayPal


Yes but they drew a distinction, so I was just clarifying


PayPal is still the only place really that offers viable micropayment fee structure. At least that I know of. At ardour.org, where we have thousands of $1 payments per month, PayPal saves us 23c per $1 transaction.


AFAIK Stripe and Plaid support only a fraction of the countries that PayPal does. And PayPal is still a global brand - recognized by almost everyone, everywhere.


fair point, I was missing the international point of view


> was the most trusted way to send and receive money

This was mostly due to century old banking regulations and the difficulty for any new type of money processors to get themselves connected to the necessary backend systems to actually do anything.

It had absolutely nothing to do with the qualities of PayPal. In many ways they were simply the only game in town.


> why is there a need to use PayPal anymore

When I try to purchase something with my credit card directly on Best Buy's website, my order always gets cancelled (presumably something in their fraud algorithm), but when I pay using PayPal, the order goes through just fine.


Wasn't PayPal at least at one time an easier way to support foreign transactions? Stripe was US-only last time I used it (which was years ago).


People in most countries can use Visa and Mastercard to pay across borders, and have been able to do so long before PayPal existed (at least back as far as the 1980s).

But PayPal probably existed and was easier for merchants in more countries than other payment services at certain points.


I guess what I meant was that with Stripe you had to have to a US bank account, at least that's what I remember last time I used it. Was that the case for PayPal?


> At one point on the internet PayPal was the most trusted way to send and receive money

Not on my planet and I've run $100m+ through them over the years.


Great to see a move off Github, though Codeberg has poor service availability.


> I've been building systems like what the OP is using since pgt3 came out.

OP is also a founder of Hashicorp, so.. lol.

> This is the honeymoon phase.

No offense but you come across as if you didn’t read the article.


You come across as if you didn't read my post.

I'll wait for OP to move their workflow to Claude 7.0 and see if they still feel as bullish on AI tools.

People who are learning a new AI tool for the first time don't realzie that they are just learning quirks of the tool and underlying and not skills that generalize. It's not until you've done it a few times that you realzie you've wasted more than 80% of your time on a model that is completely useless and will be sunset in 6 months.


a-ha, if you happen to have a Unifi router then a simpler setup would be to do policy based routing by hostnames through a vpn client maintained in the router config


this is just a wrapper around gmail


Haha almost identical experience but self hosting immich with off site backups. Wild how difficult it is to change your email with certain websites! Several months later still fighting with various sites.

I have an iphone so I use Apple maps and an icloud based obsidian vault, and that is all that is tied to Apple which feels fine for now.


There is CoMaps on iOS that is open source and is based on OpenStreetMap. Highly recommended.


This is an incredibly premature statement to make. The acquisition announcement is days old.


The zachtronics website is completely broken on mobile with constant full-screening images, had to re-open my browser to exit..


GCP’s ‘live migrations’ have been doing this for close to a decade or more. Must not be that big of a problem.


It isn't a problem if you guarantee only one child of the clone lives on - which GCP does.


How do we know that isn't enforced here too?


Because their main selling point is to run the copies concurrently with the original.


Live Migration on VMWare has been a thing before Google even had a cloud service.


VMware even has a vSphere Fault Tolerance product that creates a "live shadow instance" of a VM that mirrors the primary virtual machine (with up to 4 vCPUs). So you can do a quick failover in case of an "immediate planned" failover case, but apparently even when the primary DB goes down. I guess this might work when some external system (like a storage array) goes down in the primary, you can just switch to the other VM (with latest memory/CPU state) and replay that I/O there and keep going... But if there's a hard crash of the primary, if it actually does work, then they must be doing lots of reasoning about internal state change ordering & external device side-effect (somewhat like Antithesis, but for a different purpose). Back in the day, they supported only uniprocessor VMs (with something called vLockstep) and later up to 4 vCPUs with something called Fast Checkpointing.

I've always wanted to test this out for fun, by now 15 years have gone by and I've never got to it...

https://www.vmware.com/products/cloud-infrastructure/vsphere...


VMware has also had a patent on live VM cloning (called it VMfork) for quite a few years now. I worked on the team that built related features. Feature itself was in the desktop product. https://blogs.vmware.com/euc/2016/02/horizon-7-view-instant-...

Live migration had some very cool demos. They would have an intensive workload such as a game playing and cause a crash and the VM would resume with 0 buffering.


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