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Emailed them, thanks.


The app experience is totally ruined now. It's insanity for me to see 1Password 7 to 8 transition level of nonsense again.

Block-quotes are no longer quotes, just text with a strip of light on the left with no option to make it more obvious.

File name is now H1 header at the top of the file with no option to hide it.

Performance sucks so much, and that is on an eight-core x64 mobile CPU running Windows 10 Pro. Everything is sluggish 15fps mess. Shame.

Markdown links are ruined too. The previous UI was light years ahead, using different colors for the text and the link. Now the color is the same.

Most extensions don't care and don't render properly. Fckn great, man.

The tabs are by far the only good thing in the update. Everything else is a downgrade.


> The app experience is totally ruined now. It's insanity for me to see 1Password 7 to 8 transition level of nonsense again.

I really, really don't think this kind of catastrophizing is appropriate. A lot of your complaints are incredibly minor things, and are resolved through configuration.

> Most extensions don't care and don't render properly. Fckn great, man.

This absolutely has not been my experience and the level of vitriol is completely inappropriate. Extensions are developed by third-parties in their own time, and provided for free. Have you made sure all your 'broken' extensions are up to date? Have you verified they are compatible? Have you checked to see there are issues opened in the extension's git repo? Have you submitted PRs to fix the issues you've come across?

I've been using Obsidian for about a year, and about six months ago, I paid for Catalyst to have access to insider builds and to support development. In that time, Obsidian has gotten significantly better.


You can turn off the inline title under Settings > Appearance

It will likely take a few weeks for plugins/themes to update to the new theme system, so I would encourage a bit of patience!

See theme migration guide: https://forum.obsidian.md/t/0-16-0-theme-migration-guide/425...


Wait, I recognize your username... Thanks for the tabs, but please, please do something to the links and quotes. They are completely and utterly messed up, now that they look the same. 10 hours ago there was a difference between the text and the URL in a hyperlink. And now there isn't.

Perfomance is something we never had to begin with, at the very least I can live without it. But we had double colored links! We had quotes, highlighted out of the text by grey colored blocks.

Why? Why would you take that? I mean, 1Password team has moved to Electron and lost features, that is partially understandle. Forgivable, at least. But Obsidian just got comically worse with no explanation provided.


I am not 100% sure I understand what you are describing but it sounds easy to fix.

If you can share before/after screenshots of issue on the Obsidian forum or in Obsidian Discord, that would help!


I'll be glad to help on the weekend. It was a huge relief to know, that you didn't just drop a color from the hyperlink


Been using Obsidian for the last year or so, following LYT etc. Life changing software. So, basically everything feels exactly the same to me. I don't understand what this comment is about. Is something light years ahead just because there is a different link colour? For some reason this comment is at the top? HN pessimism has gone too far. Sorry.


> File name is now H1 header at the top of the file with no option to hide it.

Have you tried adjusting the option: Appearance › Show inline title ?


That actually worked out for me, thanks. Looks like some settings like font size, UI scaling and showing inline title have been reset.


That's funny, I could swear my Obsidian got faster from the update.


Variations of "How do I learn math?"? Yes, absolutely. Variations of anything math-related but not textbooks or courses? Heck no. It would be foolish of me to ask HN something that is publicly avaliable on the internet.

For example, that's how I found out about mathtutordvd.com in a comment thread for a three year old reddit post.

I have spend a few evenings looking for information on math workbooks, but there just isn't enough of it.


What is the average number you see after submitting the link? Mine are in 20.000


The company, which hasn't been able to figure out the UI hell of the core product for more than a decade now must never be trusted with processing payments.

Especially when you know where the data will end up, what will happen to it next and how the company makes money (98.5% from targeted ads)


they've been processing payments for over a decade


By relying on Adyen to accept payments (https://www.adyen.com/press-and-media/2022/adyen-publishes-h... and search for Facebook)


I think they have figured out their UI. It’s just not for the thing you care about. It’s “figured out” to maximize revenue.


Whenever they achieve a decent UI, they change it six months later.


I'm confident the UI for their customers works great. Problem is you're not the customer.


It’s really not. I’ve managed Facebook and Instagram ads for a non-profit educational group, sending Meta thousands of dollars for ad campaigns, and the UI for purchasing ads is poor, by the metric of whether the software “just works.”

There are separate webpages for creating a Facebook ad campaign (Ads Manager is one, plus there is a separate option with less features; I believe this is the Boosted posts function). The Ads Manager also displays a popup that the software might not work fi you have an ad-blocker enabled. For my devices, it’s slow and buggy in any browser except for Chrome.

The UI for managing Pages as a business is also poor. In the past (with previous Facebook Q&A forum posts documenting this), Facebook would automatically convert text posts by a Facebook page into a job listing, without asking for confirmation (!), making it unintuitive to undo. Separately, it also has limited categories for Facebook events (there is no category for educational events; the closest is the “Home” category).

Facebook has also removed certain popular features in the past, such as initially hiding, and then removing the feature to Share a post with the feature to “Keep the original post” (so only the link is shared, but not the post text that accompanied it by the original poster). The feature was lost due to a Facebook redesign, which is baffling because this reduced the likelihood of Facebook users to share content.

Maybe it’s different for larger customers (though I suspect they use the same tools), but the poor UI is frankly ridiculous for paying advertisers. Perhaps it does make sense, though; their competitor is Google Search and Display ads, which also have user interface problems (e.g. refusing to let you publish an ad set you’re willing to pay for, with very minimal messaging as to where exactly the error is, prompting multiple forum posts by other users). It’s effectively a duopoly, as other social media advertising channels are far less effective (maybe not LinkedIn, though LinkedIn is pricier), and newspaper ads are far more pricey (with higher minimum ad spend) with lower reach.


Not only that, but the amount of platforms they launched. First it was from your page, then they made a business page, then it became some ad manager, then it became facebook for business on a completely different URL. Not too mention the retooling and breaking what worked. Everytime I coached my client to work with FB ads, the system had changed again.

And that’s with the typical docs not reflecting the current state.


Facebook ux has been on a downward spiral all decade.


Yep. OP and all of us are not the customers, but the product.


> Problem is you're not the customer.

What do you mean by this?


Meta Ads Manager has a much higher app review score than the Facebook app ;)


No surprise there. Consumer apps versus business apps reviews are hilarious.

'My boyfriend dumped me on this app last week. One star.'

'This app listens to my conversations and serves me ads. One star'.

At best it's the product not the applcation being reviewed. At worst, it's the general public howling at the moon.


On paper? Yes. In real life? No, not really. It was not about censorship, but about getting an ability to imprison whoever they want


They don't need this to imprison anybody. They will just throw you into an industrial meat grinder, and your name into the registry of missing persons.

That why you cannot deal with them with any diplomacy. Only an answer in kind, or worse will make them scratch.


TL;DR: no, it is not misleading.

Roskomnadzor (government entity) sent an email to abuse@hetzner.com, saying that if Tor doesn't delete information prohibited in Russia or at least limit access to it from Russia (like Fastmail did when they got this email) it will get banned countrywide. Since there were no details provided about such «information» and where to find it AND Tor is unable to comply AND the fact that it is virtually impossible to connect to Tor from any mobile device; I conclude that is getting banned starting now.

I hope, really hope to be wrong, but right now it's a sad reality.


> Since there were no details provided about such «information» and where to find it AND Tor is unable to comply

Is there a source to this? It reads like something too ridiculous to be true with no additional crucial details. Doesn't RKN have a public registry for "blocked" information, that everyone is supposed to pull from?

I now wonder how the Tor Project had reacted to similar precedents (probably didn't at all?)


It's a reality. Welcome to Russia


Oh, my bad. I pointed to an issue on tor's gitlab about the email from Roskomnadzor. Somehow it got corrupted. Here is the full link: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/support/-/issues...


Such a shame. So right now Google is the only phone manufacturer that allows unlocking the bootloader without losing any functionality or enrolling into some developer program


> that allows unlocking the bootloader without losing any functionality

Does Google Pay work with unlocked bootloader?

Any bank apps that require SafetyNet attestation?


I don't understand why mobile apps need special security verification. I can use my bank website on any computer's web browser without issue. Why can't I use the mobile website to do the same? Why does it have to be an app?


The only decent defence I know is DRM. Streaming companies are afraid of people ripping their 4K streams through hacked devices. They'd rather deprive their customer base of features than risk letting go of their strict requirements. I still see high res WEBDL torrents appearing online every time streaming services release new episodes, so whatever they're doing is clearly not working anyway.

For banking apps there may be a certain level of liability ascribed to the bank. depending on local jurisdiction, but I don't think banks need top of the line security to comply with those regulations; even if there is legislation, security only needs to be good enough so that basic rooted malware can't steal money.

I think the wording in the errors and warnings for broken apps say all. When an app doesn't work because the device is rooted, the messaging is usually "your device does not support X" or "your system does not meet the requirements" or "your device is not secured". It's never "you may have malware" or any other potentially helpful message; the wording always seems to punish the user for daring to modify the software on their phone.


> Streaming companies are afraid of people ripping their 4K streams through hacked devices.

Or maybe they are afraid that people will see that instead of 4k they get 720i scaled to 4k. If they are so afraid of people ripping they could always insert a break in the stream and downgrade the quality, blaming internet connection.


Some bank apps skip annoying authentication like webapp because they are in "trusted" environment. I wish those app have "untrusted" mode but unlikely happen.


GPay is not available in my country, but the two bank apps that I use have no problem with contactless payments or normal bank transfers. I did get a popup once that the device was not in the original state, but that only seems to happen once per install.

Your experience will depend on the laws of your country and the terms of your bank, but unlocking a bootloader with Magisk and using the right masking tools is all you need to work around most SafetyNet validation.

The trick seems to be to fake the type of attestation available to make the system think hardware attestation (which can't be faked reliably by software) isn't available, falling back to basic software attestation which can be spoofed. Software developers could theoretically detect this bypass by keeping their own mapping of device type to device properties (available hardware etc. to validate the model number and prevent quick spoofing, available attestation to prevent SafetyNet bypasses, and so on) but they'd have to disable some obscure devices or accept the spoofing.


OnePlus does so too...


I thought multiple companies did that? Like Sony, Fairphone, Oneplus etc?


Not sure about others, but Sony deleted some camera firmware DRM keys on unlock which permanently crippled the quality even if you relocked.


Good to know, was recently considering to buy Sony, thanks!


How about GNU/Linux phones, Librem 5 and Pinephone, which run desktop OS with root access?


IIRC, Purism and Pine64 also sell their phones with the bootloader unlocked.


Add Xiaomi too.


I'm pretty sure Motorola does?


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