Contrary to what people may think, the most humane way is a fast clean cut. Drawing it out in anyway doesnt help anyone. This does assume communication is clear about employee next steps for HR related tasks.

This is also why in the other direction a fast clean cut works too. I mean if they want two weeks of “work”, i always consider that severance.

The fast clean cut is true in all industries. Drawing it out only makes it more painful. It is similar to breaking up in a relationship.

It sounds as if you're describing how to humanely kill a living being.

There are alternatives to killing things and I don't think fast clean cut is true in all industries. I think people want it to be true because then it hides away the complexity of the emotions we feel. Just cut it off and pretend that the cutting off won't bother us or them after the event.

I think that strategy may appear helpful but just buries most of the feelings, which don't go away, most likely just to fester underneath and erode trust.

Killing is an escalation to what i said.

The reality is the layoff decision has been made. There is no undo. It is better to cut cleanly as it allows people to move on faster than drawing it out.

The best thing for the most people is to help them move on to the next gig quickly.

The people u work with bosses included, are what make or break this. In my experience, people help one another. I have seen ceo’s push resumes of people let go to other execs in their network. This is outside company policy or communication for legal reasons but not everyone is dirt bag.

Oh I didn't mean to say that's what you wanted it to mean, just that I've heard clean cut in two main spaces: taking off bandages and slaughtering animals.

If you mean clean cut as in only cleanly cut the contract, but then maintain the relationship in other ways, I think that could make sense, as it doesn't pretend the decision hasn't already been made. I think I was reacting to clean cut the relationship completely, which I don't even think works well. But yeah, I'd appreciate if the individuals or even the company helped the people out.

It'd be like ending a relationship with someone who was financially dependent on you and just letting them fall of the cliff, compared to saying that you know it doesn't work for you two together, but you'll financially help them transition. I dunno, some people should say clean cut the relationship, drop friendships, never talk, cold turkey, I just don't know how well that works for human well being in the long term.

I think linkedin is built with emberjs not react last i checked…

The problem with performance in wep apps is often not the omg too much render. But is actually processing and memory use. Chromium loves to eat as much ram as possible and the state management world of web apps loves immutability. What happens when you create new state anytime something changes and v8 then needs to recompile an optimized structure for that state coupled with thrashing the gc? You already know.

I hate the immutable trend in wep apps. I get it but the performance is dogshite. Most web apps i have worked on spend about 10% of their cpu time…garbage collecting and the rest doing complicated deep state comparisons every time you hover on a button.

Rant over.

There are many games for vr that cannot be done without the tech. It isnt all about immersion but facilitating unique experiences.

What held it back from mainstream imo is an inherent space issue (you need room) and a lack of multiplayer participation (need even more room). Compared to sitting on a couch in a small studio with a few friends, it doesnt stand a chance.

The other problem is most peoples first experience is with some shitty mall vr room where the “game” consists of free unity assets slapped together in a way that makes marky marks horizons look polished. Few people start off with something like the half life one.

I wont touch how profoundly i disagree with everything you said on reasoning (u clearly already have it figured out) but a fun test i have done with most of the big models is to give it some text input, maybe a short story, and have it rate it. That is, the prompt is, rate this from 1-10.

For Gemini and gpt, it almost always will give very similar scores for everything. As long as grammar isnt off u cannot get below a 7.

X ai on the other hand will rarely give anything above a 7.

Now when u prompt with, rate 1-10 with 5 being average, all the sudden the scores of openai and gemini drop and x ai remains roughly the same.

All of them will eventually give you a 10 if u keep making tiny edits “fixing” whatever they complain about.

Humans do not do this. Or more specifically, my experience with humans.

Clearly a bunch of other people also disagree profoundly with everything I said, since my comment is currently sitting at 0 having at one point been higher.

I vigorously encourage anyone who thinks something I wrote is bad to downvote it as they see fit, but it would be nice if some of those people would tell me what about my comment they found so objectionable. (It all seems pretty well reasoned to me -- but it would, wouldn't it?)

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I never downvote. It isnt worth dwelling on it. People who downvote are usually the types who will not have a constructive discussion with anyways.

To be specific, one is text wall the other is that i disagree with the majority of what u said but sadly dont have the time to outline all of it. At the end of the day my disagreement is only an opinion so worth little.

For the avoidance of doubt, I wasn't meaning to imply that you downvoted me. (Nor do I mind if you did.) I don't think it's true that people who downvote things are never able to have a constructive discussion, but there's probably some correlation there.

Anyway, thanks for giving some indication of what you didn't like.

I genuinely do not understand what u are saying. Because reasons, because unfathomables? Everyone in last 15 years has been an npc? I have had countless deep conversations with people and i am an uber introvert.

This reads like someone who is deep into their specific pov. You cannot hope to have a meaningful conversation if you yourself are not willing to concede a point.

To the op u are replying too, arguing with people can have real consequences if u say something stupid or carelessly. There is a another human there. With a machine, u are safe. At least u feel safe.

I think it was a carry over from crypto days. Crypto terrible for energy etc etc. AI is also compute heavy so same deal. Regardless of real world use environment arguments are hard to sell because everything in modern life is terrible across the board.

I am pretty sure that the beef industry is far worse than data centers. Dont get me started on plastics.

Stronger arguments can be made “against” ai then energy use.

Everything in modern life is terrible compared to how it could be. There is quite a lot of room for improvement.

But compared to living in extreme poverty in parts of the developing world today or the life of a peasant in the Middle Ages? It’s much better for the vast majority of people.

It would have to get a lot worse to be as bad as subsistence farming or filthy slum life.

I think the most frustrating thing though is that many of our problems are self inflicted. The subsistence farmer and the slum dweller are victims of circumstance or societal forces far outside their control.

Thank you. I always thought the “we are getting dumber” was happening way before AI. There is now like 3-4 social media giants where anything viral is reposted across them all so it is really like one global “feed” of information.

Addictive social media has done infinitely more to zombify and destroy the attention spans of people than AI.

AI is more of a double edged sword I think. Depends a lot on how people use it. I think it's actually more likely to have positive effects on cognition than social media and especially scrollers like TikTok. Don't get me started on gambling.

Most arguments against it are built on some moral principle and not on objective reality of usefulness.

Crypto used to be the thing to hate but that made sense as the objective usefulness of crypto was meek. AI models were always crazy useful but prohibitively expensive. Youd need an entire team to build your models. Now you dont.

I had no idea what hn was until about 2 years ago. This would be 8 years into a career in tech… there are dozens of us.