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It usually takes about a month between the time I order something from the US and the time I have it in-hand. Last holiday season was about 2 months.

Never tried a return because I'd have to pay through the nose on shipping.


They specifically said a delay between getting the device and connecting it.

That's very unfortunate if you'd have to pay a return for a promised feature not working.


It's like Go, but quicker.


Won’t this be easy to defeat? Run the output through a translation model. English to whatever language, then back to English.


Yup. It's quite futile.


I think a distinction should be made between abusing position & relationships to spin a narrative vs abusing position and relationships to silence individuals.

Both are slimy and abusive but the latter is a violation of constitutional rights.


Again, constitutional rights guarantee very limited protection, and the application is very situational.


This is even worse. You’re boned when Google bans your account and refuses to tell you why.


You can still port your number away from Google even if they ban you.


How? Don't you have to unlock your number first somehow?


> without the cryptocurrency or blockchain

If only we had a way to solve this problem using a solution other than the technology that already solves this problem.


That's just silly. We just need a web standard that hooks into the existing banking system. Put that into every browser.

Just like in 99% of the other use cases presented for it, crypto is useless here. Absolutely no need for it.


Whose existing banking system? The Chinese one? The Japanese one? The Egyptian one? The Indian one?


The Ancient Roman one.

The one most people use. SWIFT.

And yeah, blah blah sanctions, Russia, Iran, like most of the world's business is happening there and like the crypto Ponzi schemers really care about the "under-banked".


How's swift suitable for micropayments?


SWIFT isn't remotely suitable for micropayments. Most banks have to go through a correspondent bank that is going to charge at least $5 per transfer.


Ok, then use anything else or get banks to come up with another one.

How, pray tell, would a cryptocurrency help here? You have all the crypto disadvantages (either untested or slow or scams or boiling the planet...) plus the same issue with adoption. We already have banks and they already have bank accounts. We have SWIFT, SEPA, etc. They know how to talk to each other. Get them to modify an existing protocol or make a new one for microtransactions.

It's a super hard task but with crypto you still have that super hard task (adoption) plus crypto itself (a million drawbacks).

It's not scientific and it's not engineering.

You solve a problem with the simplest equivalent solution, no more.

Crypto is like God. It gets sprinkled over every discussion. There's a reason science doesn't go: "A equals B plus God" to prove anything.


The “ancient Roman one”? Enlighten me.


Any. Every. Whatever the user has. Banks already figure this out amongst each other - the browser just needs to convey an IBAN (or other format), currency and amount to the user's bank and let it be their problem.


Exactly. I proposed SWIFT and people latched onto to it to criticize when it was just a detail.

You put it better, just have any layer on top of IBANs. 0 need for crypto.


However, the API should also be able to support crypto payments, by getting a crypto address and then forwarding the request to e.g. a local instance of Metamask, instead of my bank.

Perhaps if the user has multiple bank accounts linked, they would have to choose one, to avoid leaking to my bank that I'm making a crypto payment.

Of course, a crypto transaction has a significantly lower chance of being compatible since there's no foreign currency team working at the bank - if the website wants a payment in BitWhatsits and my primary wallet is in DOGEMONEY 20000!!!!! then it's up to the user or at least the extension to figure out the routing. Probably, the website would offer a different button to pay with each supported cryptocurrency, so the user would choose. They'll be accustomed to that, being a cryptocurrency and all.


I don't mind that. People should be allowed to shoot themselves in the foot with their favorite Dogecoin.


Different ones for different markets.

A working standard could simply define "seller endpoints", "buyers bank endpoint", "supported payment protocol" and a message passing system and let the parties figure it out.

Not global, but few things are in the world of finance.


International trade dependency is one of the biggest deterrents to war and often helps countries become allies.


Ukraine’s #1 trading partner was Russia, and Russia’s #3 trading partner was Ukraine.

I remember reading the same argument in the 90s, and it seemed to have a lot of merit. But, experience shows us that it’s not correct.


No deterrent is effective against a regime sufficiently detached from reality.

Putin called it a "special military operation" for a reason. It was supposed to be like Czechoslovakia in 1968. The troops go in, reach Kyiv in a few days, and take over without any real fighting. Ukraine was not supposed to be able and willing to resist. Russian military didn't even know there was going to be a war, which is why it failed so catastrophically in the first days.

The outcome of this war is going to determine whether international trade is still an effective deterrent. If Russian economy depends so much on Western technology that they will lose in the long term regardless of the oucome of the war, this was just the exception that tests the rule. If the West gives up and resumes trading with Russia, the deterrent will be gone.


Exactly. Russia's #1 gas importer is EU.


Russia (Putin) sees Ukraine as basically a subordinate state; likewise with Georgia and Belarus. That would make this action a civil war, which is basically how it's been treated by the international community.


Yeah it did exactly nothing to stop the ongoing war in europe and little to prevent china from brutally overtaking hong long. Meanwhile china is openly flexing muscles around taiwan. If anything its us that are deterred from action - see germany and russia.


Isn't that like the same thing they said before both World War I and II? That the world and trade was too interconnected so that war couldn't break out.


People are very happy to torpedo economic benefits for national pride and sovereignty.

China has been India’s largest trading partner for many years. Yet when there was a recent border dispute, everyone was willing to forego all economic ties in favor of a conflict.


Commonly held incorrect belief. Educate yourself: https://knowledge.uchicago.edu/record/2005?ln=en


As per HN Guidlines, please don't be snarky. You may have a very valid point, and it is great to back it up with links to more info, but please state what the point you are making is, rather than just a snarky comment with a link

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#:~:text=It'....


Thanks for the text highlight link...

so, one by one:

1. Not my own stuff

2. Not soliciting upvotes

3. Am kind, just busy so i don't have time to summarize for you the paper that you can just as well read yourself. In fact, it has an abstract, which is a summary, right up front.


Musk’s specialty is selling vaporware and big promises.

Satoshi released working software without prior announcements and did hardly anything to promote it.

I don’t know how anyone really thinks Elon could be Satoshi.


Dude created a company that built a reusable rocket and you accuse him of selling vaporware.


We're talking about someone with inhuman self-control, and GP is talking about someone that just can't keep his mouth shut and loves being in the spotlight.

If the genesis block did contain the image of a trollface (or any other 2008-era meme) instead of "The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on Brink of Second Bailout for Banks", I could entertain this theory.


I often wonder what would happen if Satoshi’s wallet would actively start selling.

Not so much on the price but the principles that underpin Bitcoin

I, for the record, remain a believer.


It's easy to retain self control when you already want for literally nothing.


Well, not for Elon Musk.


Gwynne Shotwell created a company that built a reusable rocket. Elon gave his name and a pile of money to it.


Plenty of people with money in the world. Yet only Elon was willing to finance Shotwell.

And last I checked, the company’s name was SpaceX, not “Elon Musk’s Rocket Company”


Your comment doesn't negate the vaporware comment.


How? I’m no fanboy but delivering working products pretty much negates all accusations of peddling vaporware.


FSD. CyberTruck. Humanoid Robot. Semi.


Also: Neurolink. Boring Company. Twitter Acquisition.


You’re confusing marketing hyperbole for vaporware.


A man jumping around in a suit being sold as a robot isn't hyperbole, it's vaporware.


Every MMO in existence has external markets for RMT. There are stories of players in elite WoW guilds making 5-6 figures for helping noobs clear content.

Some people don’t mind spending $2000 to build an endgame character that’s only worth $1000 by the time they’re done with it.

We don’t call automotive hobbyists “marks” if they pay a mechanic to tune their car and devalue its resale price. Professionals/careerists exist in every hobby industry.


In the early days, when gold wasn't worthless, we used the carry players for gold, it was the equivalent to maybe $50-100/h?

Same for arena titles.

It also funded the guilds raiding expenses and external costs.

I feel like a lot of people that have opinions about blockchain and gaming, just weren't exposed or never got involved in these underground economies.


Thanks for sharing the SN thread.


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