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The art is not lost, just not funded. Feel free to fund the programmers for your own software projects.

It isnt lost but it also isnt a common skill set in programmers any more.

Most programmers are JS web devs writing client side code or server side CRUD.

I would guess < 10% of programmers writing code today get perf / valgrind out on the regular. I know I dont.


You can still write JS or TypeScript code that tries its best to keep memory use under check. JavaScript was around in the late 90s when the memory footprint of software was at least an order of magnitude lower, so it's absolutely doable.

JavaScript in the late 90s was doing a hell of a lot less than it is today.

You don't have to go that deep. 99% of the time our analytics or risk management teams have some really memory inefficient Python and they want me to write them one of our "magic C things" it turns out to be fixable by replacing their in-memory iterations with a generator.

Most people don't have the chance to do that, but hopefully we can see some other languages get first class access on the web. At least there is the whole WASM project.

Too late for what? For you? maybe. There are many others that are okay with it and it doesn't disminish the quality of the work. Props to the author.

> Too late for what? For you? maybe.

Maybe? :)

> There are many others that are okay with it

Correct.

> and it doesn't disminish the quality of the work.

It does affect incoming people hearing about the work.

I applaud your instinct to defend someone who put in effort. It's one of the most important things we can do.

Another important thing we can do for them is be honest about our own reactions. It's not sunshine and rainbows on its face, but, it is generous. Mostly because A) it takes time B) other people might see red and harangue you for it.


You usually cite the original story

You also usually cite what you know. Maybe OP has not read the book.

Well, I've read a translation of the book. If that scene was present, it made no impression.

It's not very comedic in the book. You can see for yourself: it is the entirety of chapter 47, here: https://gutenberg.org/cache/epub/1257/pg1257-images.html#cha... .

(Interestingly, I would have said that the translation I read came from Project Gutenberg, but it wasn't the one I just linked and no other is currently available there. Does Project Gutenberg take down existing versions of out-of-copyright books sometimes??)


If the book is out of copyright is the translation also out of copyright?

Edit: apparently not. So Gutenberg is hosting whatever they legally can, which is older translations.


There are multiple older translations, but Project Gutenberg only has one at the moment. I'm conjecturing that they used to have a different one (also out of copyright; that's their whole thing), but have taken it down for unclear reasons.

It's also possible that I found a free translation of The Three Musketeers somewhere else, or that I read the same version PG has now and have misidentified it as being different.


Ah, okie dokes.

Banned from doing free work?


N*Log(N) can be approximated to O(N) for most realistic usecases.

As for LLM, there is probably some cost constant added once it can fit on a single GPU, but should probably be almost linear.


There is a difference between being smart and acting smart.


I think that's exactly the point being made. __Acting__ smart gets you paid, not being smart, and that's like, not ideal.


I wonder how you get paid if you fail the interview.


You don't, hence why it pays to act smart.


if you answer ""Well I would probably go home and work on my resume because that's a fool's errand." You probably are missing the wood and the trees.


and if you hire only based on solely on employee compliance then you are also probably missing the wood for the trees. I've worked in such orgs and they're extremely vulnerable to cargo culting.


I’m not hiring on compliance. I’ve accepted that his answer is correct but asked for the purposes of the exercise if he can put that to a side so we can talk about it. I’ve worked with and hired people like this and they tend to turn every molehill into a mountain, which is just killer on a small team.


This part of trust was not about you trusting the government though so it is okay.


Just curious how much does it sell? It gives an idea about how much my personal data is worth


I was just having a quick search and the only email I can find that offered a price range up front was for $0.1-0.4 per user, and that was from 2023. So I assume up to a dollar per user these days?


I imagine it must be very tempting to take that bag while old reddit is still usable.

Thank you for not doing so.


No, fortunately in my case it's not tempting at all.

It's easy to see how many people in less advantaged positions would end up selling out, though.


This feels like piracy to me and an unintended usecase of archives.


What do you mean? I was always under the impression that archives are for accessing a copy when the original is hard to access - this seems like the perfect use case.


Bypassing a paywall does sound a bit like piracy, if you think about it. This is what the commenter is referring to (tho in this case, I don't see a paywall on the article this end.)


I’ll admit I’ve felt a bit weird about posting archive links myself, but not weird enough to subscribe to The New Yorker instead


Advertisements and web tracking feel like stalking. I’ll pay for content when the content providers respect my attention and privacy and not until then.


> Are paywalls ok? [0]

>> It's ok to post stories from sites with paywalls that have workarounds.

>> In comments, it's ok to ask how to read an article and to help other users do so.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#:~:text=Are%20payw...


Piracy is ok


IMO it’s definitely piracy, but piracy is morally neutral


This isn't archive.org. Archive.is (and its many TLD equivalents) is explicitly for bypassing paywalls like this, and this is absolutely the intended use.

9 times out of ten it's because sites use cloaking and serve up all of the contents to search bots, but then paywall out end users, so it's kind of a hoisted by their own petard kind of situation.

And, I mean, people can choose to not follow those links. To the rest of us they're often very welcome, and we aren't subscribing to every random site for the once in a millennia worthwhile article.


> is explicitly for bypassing paywalls like this

The site existed for most of a decade before it had any particular paywall bypassing. It's an ondemand archival site that saves the DOM in such a way that redisplay is faithful, unlike archive.org.

It's a key resource in court cases for purely archival purposes and the fact that it bypasses paywalls is essential for its archival purpose to function.


Yeah, sure (sarcastic). And people mostly use torrents to share Linux distros.

The site/org has no office and is anonymously run virtually. Exists on random, essentially free for all TLDs, does not honour take-down requests, does not respect robots.txt, masquerades as the Googlebot...

...yeah, I happen to have not been born yesterday so I'm not going to play along with a fiction.


Nothing you said contradicts the post you responded to, so there's no need to be rude (e.g. sarcasm) or adversarial here. You are both correct.


Nothing I said was rude or adversarial, so not sure why you decided to be rude and adversarial here.

My sarcasm was to the purported original goal, when it has always, since day one, been a fake Googlebot known, again since day 1, as a circumvention of paywalls for sites that cloak.


well if you declare that nothing you said was rude (i.e. no sarcasm, which is rude) or adversarial, then I similarly declare that nothing I said claimed otherwise :) so what are you talking about, then?


That’s nice. I’m still not giving the NYT my email or a dime.


HN is only against piracy when AI labs do it.


When giant IP corporations violate IP, that's very different from Joe Rando watching a movie for free. It's way worse, on multiple levels, for rule-makers to break rules than for ordinary people to.


> It's way worse, on multiple levels, for rule-makers to break rules than for ordinary people to.

The purpose of the system is what it does. Yet the system routinely persecutes ordinary people for this criminal offense while giant IP corporations just treat it as an opening move in corporate deal-making.


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