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> A free option provided by a Corporate player will gravitate towards monopolies and lack of privacy.

Just like a "free" government option?


A crucial difference being that the government option is publicly funded and ideally does not have an incentive to sell their users' souls in exchange for shareholder profits.


Thats a false equivalence. Asking a repo maintainer to fix an issue or implement a new feature is requesting their voluntary work. This has nothing to do with silencing disagreement.


Huh? That was just a non-funny aside.


I would never even open a project's site with this name


When people asked for the government to regulate intellectual property. But I guess crying about capitalism is easier


We care more about protecting capital than people.


Grammarly compared to nuclear reactor parts. Now that's some gold medal mental gymnastics


My country has sanctioned Russia. I can't even sell a t-shirt if it's being delivered to Russia. I can't accept a credit card if the address terminates in Russia. It's not nothing personal, it's just the law.

I'm used to this. My country has sanctioned many people before: Cuba, North Korea, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, etc. Once the war is over... the sanctions will be removed.

Until then, I accept sanctions as a resonable alternative to actually going to war, and drafting 18-20 year olds to go die in a foreign land.


ITAR restricts exports of Nuclear parts, weapons and other Scary Stuff all the time based on what they are.

Sanctions restrict all economic interactions with specific entities (countries, businesses, individuals) based on official displeasure with those entities.

So Grammarly is almost certainly NOT subject to ITAR restrictions (IANAL). Exporting software like this (ie selling it to someone in another country) is usually governed by EAR, which is a rule set like ITAR but for normal civilian stuff and thus not very strict.

So you are correct, Grammarly is not export-restricted the same way nuclear parts are. Both nuclear parts and SaaS (and everything else) are restricted from sale to Russia because of sanctions. Those sanctions were put in place when Russia invaded Ukraine for basically no reason and started committing war crimes.

…I’m very content with the sanctions on Russia.


> 2009 Did you just search for "Israel books" and copied the link for the first negative looking article for free political karma?


> Plus, we have the European Power Grid

Ah, I see, solar and wind being volatile are not a problem because you have other countries to generate power for you, even if it is nuclear (that apparently is bad) or coal. What?


Oh yeah, telegram is a nazi company, they "commited a crime". Fuck off. What is your plan to defeat nazism, ban the whole internet? Because, sorry for giving you the bad news, Telegram is far from the only place where there are stupid people.


> ban the whole internet?

These judges? I don't doubt for a second they'd do it.


Stockholm syndrome is a bitch


They did not "simply ignore" the court order. They did give the data they had, thats being all info about the groups owner. Furthermore, the court asked for info such as CPF number, home address and Bank account information. How the hell is this reasonable? Furthermore, if you just blocked every platform just because it "had nazis on it", or even better, any kind of criminal group, hell, you should just block the whole damn internet already.

Source: the court order (in Portuguese) https://static.poder360.com.br/2023/04/decisao-telegram-grup...

For non-Brazilians, that is a document in Brazil that almost everyone has, and is the most commonly used to identify you. But Telegram never asks you for it.


You should read the court order you posted here. Specifically these parts:

"Sucedeu-se que, nos termos do que demonstrou suficientemente a autoridade policial, essa empresa cumpriu apenas parcialmente a ordem judicial que lhe foi dirigida, uma vez que se limitou a fornecer as informações concernentes ao administrador (e não a todos os usuários) do canal “Movimento Anti-Semita Brasileiro”, deixando, ademais, de fornecer os dados dos usuários do grupo “卐 Frente Anti-Semita 卐”. (...) não se sustenta a argumentação, desenvolvida pelo Telegram, de impossibilidade de apresentar os dados relativos à "卐 Frente Anti-Semita 卐", à míngua da demonstração cabal de que esse grupo (chat) foi excluído há mais de seis meses, contados da data em que recebido o ofício judicial do evento 16 (do contrário, incide sobre o provedor o dever previsto no art. 15 da Lei n. 12.965/2014)."

In other words, the judge ordered all information they had (including CPF) about all users of the groups. They gave only what they had on the admin of one of the groups, and then said they couldn't give any info about the other group because it had been closed. But not storing info for at least 6 months is against the law.

To me it's clear Telegram is in contempt of court and should be severely punished.


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