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Thank you for explaining the issue with such clarity. This is one of the best comments I’ve read for a while.


They link to: https://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen3-omni-68d100a86... from the blog post but it does seem like this redirects to their main space on HF so maybe they didn't yet make the model public?


Hey, thanks for the kind words. I just wanted to clarify that Brave Search is 100% independent and doesn’t source results from any third -party (see here for more details: https://brave.com/blog/search-independence/)

Disclaimer: I work at Brave


I've never tried turning off the Google fallback results in Brave Search. Maybe I should give it a try to see how well it's doing without.


Brave search is everything I wanted DDG to be, great work


Kagi is not independent: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm...

Disclaimer: I work at Brave.


> If the story turns out like it did with Cliqz/Hubert Burda (the other big German publisher) it will mean reinterpreting privacy as keeping the American companies out of the loop but sharing the data with the German publisher is OK, because they are clearly the good guys and can be trusted to treat your data responsibly.

Your sentence seems to imply that Cliqz was collecting "[the] data" like American companies (which companies? Which data?). Can you clarify what you are referring to?

Disclaimer: I worked at Cliqz


These models are not of the same nature either. Their training was done in a different way. A uniform naming (even with explicit number of parameters) would still be misleading.


Update on the status page as of 16h10 CET:

"Technical difficulties Investigating - We are currently experiencing intermittent network issues affecting some of our users. We are working to fully restore services as soon as possible. We apologize for the inconvenience. Jan 09, 2025 - 16:10 CET"

This seems to impact VPN, Calendar, etc.


It has a ddos-y kinda fee to me. I guess we'll know eventually.


I can confirm that both web client and iOS apps cannot connect to servers at this point. There was a server outage earlier today, not sure if it's related.


I just wanted to thank you for sharing your experience in such details. Wishing you all the best on your path to recovery and beyond.


Hi, Brave engineer here,

May I ask when you switched away from Brave Search? We've been doing work to reduce the amount of captchas a few months ago and we stopped getting feedback about this issue at that point. If it's still happening, it's something we will look into again.

Also, are you a user of ProtonVPN by any chance?

Thanks for your help,


Excellent browser. One issue with it though, when I close the browser I am expecting my history to be deleted as I set it up that way, but it turns out I have to manually close every tab before closing the browser for it to actually delete the history and that seems like a mistake. Otherwise, great browser. Though you should rip out all the Google stuff from it, literally every single thing that connects or touches that pos company.


Sampson here, from Developer Relations at Brave. Would you mind telling me a bit more about how you have Brave configured, so that I can make sure local testing and troubleshooting on my end reflects your scenario accurately? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

You are presumably using the "Clear on Exit" feature, located within settings at brave://settings/clearBrowserData. When you select the "On Exit" tab of that view, which options do you have selected? Do you find that none of the data types are cleared when you close the browser (via › Exit), or only some of them are cleared?

I'm also curious about the state of two options within brave://settings/system, namely "Close window when closing last tab," and "Warn me before closing window with multiple tabs". Are both of these enabled?

Thank you in advance


Hey, let me forward that to someone more knowledgeable about this topic. We'll get back to you. Thanks for the feedback!


Hi pythux, off-topic question but do engineers directly read the feedback or is it filtered for you by someone else?


It can be both, we have people who look at community feedback on a daily basis, but engineers also tend to be out there on HN and Reddit, etc. and today it was the case that I saw the comment and could jump in straight away.


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