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> Or is this some weird publicity stunt? (But then why is nobody walking forward to take credit?)

Indeed, that's a good question. What motivations might someone have to keep this running?


Maybe they don't even know.


I mean, they have it publishing blog posts about its actions -- one would think they'd read its own blog at the very least? (Unless.. scary thought.. this person unleashed so many bots that they're not even bothering to look)


This comment is another example of an "llm psychosis" that is currently occuring in common discourse.

The mass delusion of, "I don't understand what I'm reading, therefore it must be produced by an llm."

I think it's a pretty serious problem. Not that llm text exists on the internet, but that reasonable people are reflexively closed off to creativity because the mere existence of the possibility that something is created by an llm is in their minds grounds for disqualification.


Nono, the claim is not that it is produced by an llm, rather that author researches the subject with llms and generally is a high frequency user.

A common property of llm psychosis is the development of an internal vocabulary that the llm learns, often reusing words but adopting specific meanings, for some reason quantum and quantic are very popular for this.


I didn't see any of that in either article.


Dang is complicit in this. He's probably got the server logs piping straight to DHS


No


Drats


This person seems to be attention seeking and grasping for a narrative.


You didn't write this comment. It was the result of synapses firing at predictive intervals and twitching muscle fibers.

You're not conscious, it's just an emergent pattern of several high level systems.


"this abuser might be abusive, but in this case you did something that really did set the abuser off, so you should know about that next time you consider doing something."


Ah, we're at, "it was a hoax without any evidence".

Next we will be at, "even if it was not a hoax, it's still not interesting"


LLM's do not have personalities. LLM's do not take personal offense. I'm begging you to stop being so credulous about "AI" headlines.


LLMs can roleplay taking personal offense, can act and respond accordingly, and that's all that matters. Not every discussion about LLMs capabilities must go down the "they are not sentient" rabbit hole.


I have no idea what you're on about.

You're "begging" me. Please. You're not even responding with a cogent idea.

I didn't suggest anything that you're supposedly arguing about. Stop trying to sound smart on the internet. I'm begging you.


I’m not saying it is definitely a hoax. But I am saying my prior is that this is much more likely to be in the vein of a hoax (ie operator driven, either by explicit or standing instruction) than it is to be the emergent behavior that would warrant giving it this kind of attention.


That's fair. I did have kind of the same realization last night after responding to you.

Its useless speculating, but I had this feeling after reading more about it that this could potentially be orchestrated from someone within the oss community to try to shore up some awareness about the current ai contrib situation.


Will still be able to use open weights models, which is what I use openrouter primarily for anyway


Online forums tend to amplify and legitimize otherwise minority standpoints.

There is a well studied cognitive bias: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority. People tend to think they're special.

> The vampire in the room, for me, seems to be feeling like I'm the only person in the room that doesn't believe the hype. Or should I say, being in rooms where nobody seems to care about quality over quantity anymore.

If in real life you are noticing the majority of peers that you have rapport with tending towards something that you don't understand, it usually isn't a "them" problem.

It's something for you to decide. Are you special? Or are you fundamentally missing something?


To say I'm the only one is an exaggeration, it's probably more around 50/50 with the 50% in the pro camp being very vocal to the point where it's almost insulting. Being given basic tasks (like, find the last modified file) with "use Claude to get the command" said straight after.

I perfectly accept that it might be a me problem, and this is why I keep exposing myself to these tools, I try to find how they can help me, and I do see it, I just feel like a lot of people ignore the ways these tools harm productivity (and here I mean directly, not some vague "you'll get worse at learning").

I accept your point, and I do take it to heart, and I do keep wondering if I'm missing something


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