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The phone costs 199 and 75 a month. It is expensive, but why exaggerate?


he's not really exaggerating, though. i bought my iphone in the first few days after release, and i did indeed pay 600 bucks for it. it has come down since then, but there are those of us who paid that.

i can't remember the exact details, but the cost for the data plan went up after they introduced 3g support, and dropped the 200 free text messages per month.


It cost you more than $199. You just don't realize it, because Apple and your carrier did a good job of snookering you.


Good programmers can get far removed from the tools advocated on hacker news when they work for large companies. They tend to use a lot of internal tools. That doesn't mean they can't pick up external tools later.


Really cool. Love the lion cub photo. It'd be neat to see where each photo was taken on the map. Not sure if flickr exposes that though.


meh, I bought a desktop that shipped with ubuntu. Changing users makes it crash. My keyboard didn't work. Flash works about 80% of the time.

On my thinkpad, which I installed myself, suspend only works if I disabled the nvidea drivers. It really isn't great yet.


geez--I'm running fedora 9 on an hp laptop. It's a Vista dual-boot rig. Everything works but suspend on closing the lid.

I don't use the Vista side much, but my wife uses a very expensive Sony with vista biz premium on it. Her suspend also (sometimes) crashes. She can't print from our XP home network (I can). She paid for adobe acrobat professional and it never worked on her box.

Of course, fedora 10 is out now and the thought of upgrading gives me the cold sweats...


'Changing users makes it crash'

Wow. Which vendor? What happened when you reported it?


Orkut dev in Mountain View had a lot of Indian engineers. They've since moved all dev work to Brazil and India.


yeah, but it kind of sucks thinking about it as part of your salary, because then you feel like you're throwing money away if you don't stay for dinner every night. Sometimes you just want to eat with your friends and family.


yes, that is definitely a downside when you don't or are unable to take advantage of the perks. That is where negotiating your salary comes into play though. If you know that you are not going to be staying for dinner then negotiate up for that extra $2000-3000 to get it back.

i feel the same way about taxes though. I pay them and half the things they go to I never use. I wish I could negotiate them with them government better :)


I worked at Google for 4 years, and chatted with you many times. I was unhappy for nearly all of my time there. I wouldn't say that I wasn't into algorithms or scaling, or hardcore cs, but I was never on a project at Google that used them, and I found moving between projects much harder than advertised. My job was routinely mundane and repetitive, and things that were exciting somehow got caught up in management red tape. But now I'm at a startup where I get to work on exciting algorithms, and I'm happy.


I think that Google isn't always so good at helping people move between projects. I'm glad you found somewhere that worked for you, though.


That's curious, because I was told that inter-project mobility was a big strength of Google, first by the friend who referred me in, then by my recruiter, and then both my managers (I switched projects/managers on my second day, since my original one didn't really need another engineer) said that if it wasn't a good fit there were lots of other places within the company where my skills would be useful and I might be happy. It's a moot point for now, since I like my project and am excited to get going on it, though I'm kinda curious what'll happen if/when I outgrow it.


Teams and managers are very different there. I was told they liked it for people to stay on projects for at least 18 months, and that it's difficult to get a transfer with less time than that. That was the company line from my very first project there, in 2004, when it was still a relatively small company. A lot of it is just luck of the draw with your initial allotment there. Glad you found something that you enjoy though.


I don't understand what you mean. If you update the location with location.href, the page will reload. I think the poster wanted to avoid reloads, hence the whole point of using rsh.


The page doesn't reload when ony the fragment part is changed.


I worked at Google. Most meetings had way too many people in them, and 90% of the people would sitting around using their laptops through them, attempting to tune in when it was relevant. It wasn't really all that efficient. Marissa's very special meetings were run in a special way, and were more efficient, but teams meticulously prepared for their 5 minutes with her.


oh, Quality. I thought he meant Quantity.


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