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All of the communications on these channels are typically legally discoverable, so it makes sense you don't want to introduce potential vectors for political discrimination in an increasingly remote world.

There are plenty of non political topics to cover...Gardening, pets, clothing, home renovation, local music events and festivals, kids, etc. In all the teams I've been on, political topics never came up. It's okay to find friends outside of work and discuss politics with them; your social network doesn't have to center on the workplace.


What if you want to discuss gay spousal benefits? Or how medical insurance is going to work for gay couples?


Then read your contract. Discussing these things does not change what the contract you signed says. If you don't like it, renegotiate or leave. If your negotiation is an ultimatum on these points you should probably consider it equivalent to deciding to leave in most cases, but maybe if you have enough leverage you will win.


One might also consider forming a union with your fellow coworkers, and negotiating with management with said union.

As you mentioned, if you have enough leverage, you win. If that's your jam, grab for the crowbar of labor rights. Organizing is federally protected.


Sure it's your legal right to form a union, go for it if you want. More power to you if you win.

Fortunately workers in tech are almost unanimously smart enough to understand this isn't in their interest and reject unions.

Also understand you are playing power politics so if you are going to play make sure you can win. These people at instacart didn't: https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/21/22242676/instacart-firing...


> Fortunately workers in tech are almost unanimously smart enough to understand this isn't in their interest and reject unions

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/08/954710407/at-google-hundreds-... ("Google Workers Speak Out About Why They Formed A Union: 'To Protect Ourselves'")

https://www.wired.com/story/how-kickstarter-employees-formed... ("How Kickstarter Employees Formed a Union")

https://techcrunch.com/2021/03/02/following-unionization-gli... ("Following unionization, Glitch signs collective bargaining agreement ")

I admit there's still much work to be done with regards to tech organizing.


The "Google union" is a complete joke BTW. It's made up of half a dozen low-level employees that have no bargaining power at all. Half the company hasn't even heard of it (true story).


Yeah. That's the whole list...

Want to compile the 1000 page document that would be all the places who haven't unionized?


That's unnecessary. I'm simply demonstrating that unionization has occurred in businesses far larger and with arguably more difficult organizing environments than Basecamp (with a total of ~60 employees). 800 Google workers thought it important enough to join their union.


800 out of 135000 is 6 tenths of 1%.

A Basecamp union organizer who was the only one to decide to join their own creation of a Basecamp Workers Union would already be 3 times as successful as the Google union on a per-capita basis.


I can only chuckle at the raw math, as if that’s the valuable datapoint. It seems impossible until it’s done.

It took decades for America to ruin the idea of unions, they’re not coming back overnight.


A union derives its bargaining power from the amount of monopoly it has on the labor supply. (I don't say that as a bad thing; I mean it just as a factual thing.)

Tech industry turnover is around 13% per year, or 0.25% per week. The Google union could all quit at once and it would be like that week's turnover number was slightly higher than normal.

Google has more employees out sick on any given day than they have union members.


Imagine making this ridiculous argument for anything else.

Yeah, maybe only .005% of Americans are flat earthers but I chuckle at the math! You just havent given it enough time for us to be proven right!


I'll stick to calling 1000s to 3 "nearly unanimous"


Yes, the Lou Bloom / Game of Thrones perspective exists and has a basis in our world. When you play with power, you win or you die.

But I don't believe that's why American gays have been experiencing more and more support. It is not persuasion by equity, but simply by asking people what kind of future they want to live in. Gay life also also improved among EU peers for the same reasons.

Politics is the negotiation of power, and yet strangely, gay people have been able to achieve wins at the negotiating table simply by asking, often without leverage. Sometimes people will listen to your story and simply agree.


except if your co-workers never know they they never have a chance to stand up for you and demand change. this is a great way to silence minorities because talking about the challenges they face is now forbidden.


Gardening: So are you a climate change wacko or a doomsday prepper wacko? Clothing: Do you know where I can get my leather chaps repaired? Home Renovation: I need to get a permit and inspection for my rec room renovation. They want confirmation that the beam can hold 400lbs in the sex-swing.

Any topic can be political if you are enough of a jerk.


Yep. I do wonder if we've lost the ability to talk and recognize common experiences versus politics and people are looking to go full jerk.


I saw a thread of many women talking about similar issues in a pro-vaccine Seattle group (where younger people were looking to get extra vaccine doses before the vaccines were open to all ages). There are also threads in women's subreddits.


I wish, as someone who has been job searching, that I could use something like this...Have you reached out directly to employers or did you just post about it to hackernews?


Also note that the costs of flying someone in right now is mitigated by the fact that all on-sites are virtual right now. And unemployed people in 2020/2021 may not have the luxury of being picky about a higher salary. You tried launching this in a weird year.


The survey was designed to help employers too - it's a large expense for them to interview, especially including indirect expenses.

A weird market should actually call for more screening like this, because expectations can be all over the place right now.


I certainly can do more "things that don't scale" but so far the response has been limited, so that I'm not even sure if it's a matter of reaching more people or it's just not something employers want.


What types of feedback did you get through end users so far regarding their expectations for information density?


It was mostly, when looking at search results, "is this the right dataset for me?" Particularly when many datasets have similar names or the title of the dataset was unclear. So we added descriptions and "quick-peaks/expand" in search results.

This is in contrast to the original version which was very dense tabular view, having people scroll sideways to parse or click into many pages what a dataset was about.


At a glance, I'd be unclear on what set of scenarios they expect the site to help out with. The person would need to type the right search term and hopefully land on the right result. If they wanted to use the navigation, it seems hovering over the menu items doesn't show you the structure of the site-- you need to click into each individual tab. It's pretty but hard to gauge how useful it is.


Totally! I think the search term issue will get addressed as the datasets get tagged with more near and similar terms so it populates the search results with a wider net of results. (like misspellings, synonyms, topic and category terms, etc).

I feel like we talked about topics being a search result too, but there was some barrier to the search tool to get it to work with other page types. That'd fix a lot too.


It didn't roast me, weighted on my most recent listening, and instead went for analyzing my whole history at once.


My college classmate put in a referral for a specific role a couple of weeks ago, and no word. Not even an email acknowledgement that my job application is in the system.


The San Jose cop that caught controversy was found by public records to be getting paid over 200k a year: "According to Transparent California, a salary database of public employees, Yuen has worked for SJPD since at least 2014 and made about $153,000 in regular pay and overtime in 2019 as part of a total $226,000 compensation package." You can also look at Seattle police salaries (https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/databases/article2586102... it is normal for police to be getting paid 150k+.


I was between jobs this time last year, and started rooting around in my local town's salary publications. In the top 50 salaries for my mid-size MA town, about 50% were police (starting at places 2, 3, 4 and then like 8?), with the average salary (including overtime) at about 175k$.

There are also 54 people listed as working as "[XXX] police [XXX]", in a town of 41k.

For the record, there is an average of one violent crime a day in my town, and stats like 7 projected rapes in 2020 (0 murders).

Whether or not that's all justified, I leave as an exercise to the reader.


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