I'm building mailwip.com (and my second saas right now)

My strategy is too simple, I don't think it will works but It work good enough for me.

- Just engage in the community. In early day, I helped on the cloudflare forum. I just help generic about anything related to email, explain concept and here and there try to introduce my service. I always introduce my service last. Give people free option first, always, even if the free option is my competitor. But I do explain pros/confs of my service

- Build plugin that may drive traffic: For me, CloudFlare offers plugin ability so I built a CloudFlare app for that. It may not benefit me directly but get my name out there

I shared my revenu and publish update on indiehacker https://www.indiehackers.com/product/hanami/revenue

Yes, exactly this. Mailwip has 2 features to discover this

1- Mailog(opt-in, disable by default): Once enabling you can choose the detail of logging to see the delivery status. 2- Spam digest: (opt-in, disable by default). We will send a daily summarize if there is email we flagged and didn't forward to you.

Oh that’s interesting.

With mailbox.org I am in complete darkness if some mail was dropped after or before my mail client and mailbox.org support is well mailbox.org support. So I don’t really know what happened.

So if an email was dropped even from spam - there’s some log display interface for my account where I can see all this?

Or if something I was sending was dropped — I can see that as well in there? (Assuming neither were shown as a failure email in my mailbox)

I build this for this use case:

I already had an email somewhere. Anytime I got a new domain, I just want to forward to that email. Consolidate all of my email in a single place. And support SMTP so I can also reply through the domain as well.

I want a dead simple way to manage these alias, help family all know what is up by forwarding all emails to their individual emails.

I don't want to get charge per sear, or have to convince the others to switch to a new mailbox. Just forward to them.

I had stuff like kid@ travel@ school@ insurance@ forward both to my wife and me for example.

CloudFlare isn't easy to use for a non-tech person to manage their email. It also require that you point the DNS to CloudFlare. If the DNS is on Route53, you cannot use Cloudflare.

ImprvoMX is something I really admire but I just need more feature they don't support at the time (Maillog, webhook, regex routing, search email) So I build this for me as a user and have. been growing it.

With the alias, I can also block/null route after a certain use when I don't want to hear from that alias anymore. Impossible to do with a standalone inbox.

My wife love it. She got her own domain and use it when signing for deal/coupon website then null route the alias to prevent being bombarding later on.

Most of the time these service works. But when it doesn't work you just don't know how to debug it.

Mailwip.com has a mail log with the detail so you can debug delivery issue. Also, manage email with namecheap ui dns is something I just don't want to deal with.

I want some nice UI, that also enable a few member of family to self-manage the domain and forward rule.

Sometime I also want to have webhook to parse receipt email from the bank. So I ended up building all of this.

If gmail and namecheap works for you, no need to look further.

Aha, thank you!

I did not know about the silent drops. That is concerning.

Thank you. I build this.

Originally every time I had a domain and start a project, I have to setup email. Other services always lack something that I want. So I ended up building my own and has been growing it since 2021.

We also had a RayCast extension developer by Xmok https://www.raycast.com/xmok/mailwip

We had some very advanced routing rule based on regex, and wildcard domain, work in progress to support sieve filter. Had web-hook and API so you can do some cool thing with emails.

Ah yes, then we can have it hallucinate and totally misrepresent the concept. Terrible idea.

If you're still fighting with Chef slowness, hard to debug, complicated setup, you may want to consider Pyinfra.

It is very well thoughout and simple to design and run.

It targets a different audience overall.

I've been using it a bit, and I like it. However, it is a lot more like programming in Python (rather than defining configuration) when you do anything outside the normal rails.

That's not a bad thing, but it is a different thing.

Still testing it more, and my needs are different than everyone else's, but so far I wouldn't say to anyone who already uses Chef, Ansible, Salt, etc. they could switch to Pyinfra, because the 'core' tool for automation is similar, but the ecosystem is altogether different.

I am moving some of my personal projects over to Pyinfra though, but for now mostly to flesh out my own understanding of it—my main stuff is all still Ansible.

We did this in 2013, got serve with a lot of lawsuit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeighborCity

Be careful with the real estate industry

I'm curious, how do businesses like Zillow get around this? Do they have direct agreements with MLS?

Zillow, OpenDoor, Redfin, and Realtor.com all pay for API access to the largest Multiple Listing Systems (except for Realtor because they are the ones that are selling the access).

They then use their own “special” algorithms to give their price estimate based on “relevant” factors by what you are describing.

Your real issue is that the agents putting these homes on the market have a financial stake in it selling, and own copyright to all the pictures and descriptions of their listings. So you have more liability if you are scraping their info.

Another issue is who is the target audience for this? Most serious homebuyers are going to use an agent or a trusted partner for a transaction, and are not excited about compounding layers of hurdles to purchase a home

I am a residential real estate appraiser in the US and real estate technologist, which is why I bring up these points.

Zillow has spent years building relationships with thousands of litigious MLS's. It's impossible to build a lawsuit-proof real-estate app in the US without doing that.

They partner with Listhub and pay for the data feed, and/or get deals with individual MLSs and large brokerages. Hopefully, for folks in the UK it’s not as awful as it is in the states.

It seems like this site is more EU based. Does anybody here know if there is an MLS equivalent in this jurisdiction and/or if similar copyright holders over there are as litigious?

There’s not an MLS equivalent in the UK, property data is quite fragmented.

We’re not looking to display anything an estate agent doesn’t want us to - agents tell us they’re very happy for us to serve as an advertising channel. And we’d immediately action any sort of take down request.

Then this might serve as an interesting opportunity for you to sell leads or direct them towards the info you’re scraping from.

Tho if it works as free advertisement on either side, that’s a win-win.

I was on the real state listing site side long time ago, we were trying to block scrapers from getting our data, at the en we loss, and now we pay them to send us users instead of paying Google ads because it’s cheaper. Fun times

I had a Macbook Pro intel. I can ship it as well. Drop your email to me.

Email me your info. I will ship one.

careful the guy created an account 9h ago, I would not trust him.

Strongly agree. Especially with the name, highly suspicious, feels like an opportunity to get a free laptop mimicking as a person who needs real help.

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