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It seems to not be true anymore. I checked last week to rent a car in France for the holidays, and all the cheapest options for small urban cars were EV (mostly Zoe).

Note that I only checked for big renting companies (Sixt, Enterprise, ...). I was very surprised!


According to the article, the ads deemed "overly annoying or intrusive" are defined by "the standards established by the Coalition for Better Ads, of which it is a member". Since it's not Google actually deciding this, how is that anti-competitive?

BTW, the Coalition for Better Ads has many members [0], including Facebook and other big ads providers.

I'm personally not convinced this will solve the issue, but I believe it's a least a step in the right direction.

[0] https://www.betterads.org/members/


> According to the article, the ads deemed "overly annoying or intrusive" are defined by "the standards established by the Coalition for Better Ads, of which it is a member". Since it's not Google actually deciding this, how is that anti-competitive?

The argument I see for this: because it's a group Google, an ad seller, is part of deciding what ads are allowed and then Google blocking violating ads. Arguably, by pairing standards with blocking, the Coalition for Better Ads, including Google, are jointly engaging in a combination in restraint of trade.

An anti-competitive action doesn't become less anti-competitive when instead of one actor with dominant marketshare, you add additional incumbent actors in the market into the decision process and make it an agreement to restrict what products are acceptable to sell and actively block other products in that category.


Let's take TV as a comparison. On TV the ads have guidelines on what they can do and show, set by the tv channel and the broader regulation.

On the internet, there isn't anything, it's the wild west. It can't hurt to get some minimal standards, doesn't matter where it comes from as long as it's enforced.


> set by the tv channel and the broader regulation.

Which is key. Television ad regulations aren't set – and enforced – by the dominant advertisement broker.


The channel can refuse to play any ad for any reason. They standards are partially set by the channel.


...who is not the broker.


Let's get back in times when there was TV but there was no regulation yet. A channel surely had to be the broker and set the standards.

Internet is young. There will be some regulations and standards, eventually.


Online advertising has existed for over 25 years. [1] Online ad brokers (i.e., competitors with Google) have existed for nearly 20 years. It is incredibly disingenuous of you to pretend as if Google is in any way "forced" to play both gatekeeper and ad broker, like no-one else is trying to compete in that space. Developing Chrome was a deliberate choice by Google to position themselves to own the means by which users consume ads, search (ads), and video (ads).

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_advertising#Display_ads


Legally, it matters a lot whether it's the government enforcing rules which restrain trade or a private coalition including the major incumbent players in the industry being restrained.


> but I believe it's a least a step in the right direction.

Boy, I don't. Ask yourself why this is not an extension instead (even if installed by default)? Also, where can I download this ad list? Why do you believe lack of transparency is a step in the right direction? You really believe that the perpetrators are the best enforcers?


From the HN guidelines:

Please don't insinuate that someone hasn't read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that."


Saying "According to the article" is not insinuating someone didn't read it. It's actually very close to "The article mentions that" which is the suggested phrase in your very quote.


I edited my comment to follow the guidelines.


Thank you for the clarification :) Hopefully jwilk edits their comment accordingly.


Too late to edit my comment, but I confirm that jicks's comment is fine now.


I'm pretty sure GP edited their comment.


Is Chrome going to block ads on the Google search results page for taking up more than 30% of the page?


My guess is no, because while they may take 30%+ of the screen initially, they don't represent 30%+ of the full page (see [0] for more details).

[0] https://www.betterads.org/mobile-ad-density-higher-than-30/


They wouldn't be adding it to Chrome if it did. That's the problem.


It's usually around 20€/month for that kind of plan in France (with unlimited calls and SMS).


The criteria is not discretionary. They'll block ads that don't follow the guidelines defined by the Coalition for Better Ads [0] (Google is a member, but there is a lot of other members, like Facebook, ...). So yes, they'll block a site which has non-conforming Google ads.

[0] : https://www.betterads.org/


Which of course raises the question - if they have the technology to detect these ads, why allow them on their network in the first place?


Depends on how you define discretionary here. I say it's discretionary if a human chooses instead of a computer with clearly defined constraints. So if it's not discretionary, can you tell me what the specific rules are for determining something is an ad as opposed to some other kind of image?


I understand this, and believe it's true, but: gmail mobile has a full page ad asking you to download the app. I'll be surprised if Google block it.


There's a difference between a site willfully destroying UX on mobile versus including a third party's paid content.

Reddit mobile also has a full page ad asking you to download the app. I also doubt Google would block that. Nothing to do with it being "Google".


I personally don't see a difference. They are putting a notice up that is trying to entice me to "buy" something. Why does it matter if it's from a 3rd party or not?


No, they'll only block ads that don't follow the guidelines defined by the Coalition for Better Ads [0] (Google is a member, but there is a lot of other members, like Facebook, ...). Note that this may include ads provided by Google.

[0] : https://www.betterads.org/


It is either naive or cynical to insist that a giant unaccountable organization will or won't do anything in particular with respect to its core business.


Why are there so many people shilling for Google with this "coalition"?


Apparently, because it's shorter [0].

[0]: See https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/11/10/348


Why is it shorter? Both MOV and OR have one byte encodings, and with the OR you either have to use an immediate zero (which burns a byte) or materialize zero in some other way. As that email points out, the entire sequence would be shorter using a different addressing mode anyways. And a read-modify-write is definitely slower at runtime.


I wonder if it's because it's safer in that it doesn't change anything there if you've gone over the stack limit and into the heap? I know that -fstack-protect was designed a long time ago, possible before guard pages and before 64bit addressing.


It is actually very different:

- AutoML is used to automate the design of the ML model.

- Population-based trained is used to automate the choice of the hyperparameters (e.g. the rate of learning).

If you wanted to use both, you'd first use AutoML to find a good design for your problem, and then you'd use PBT when training your network.


Except it's the other way around. Their repo is 6 months older than yours.


But it was published after mine.


Try not to be discouraged. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

You should be okay keeping the Bottery name. I don't see this project as something Google will be supporting in the long or mid-term.


Thanks for your comment :)


If I remember correctly, the idea is to block ads that don't conform to the standards set by the Coalition for Better Ads [0]. Google is (as you can expect) a member of this coalition (just like Facebook and many other companies [1]).

[0]: https://www.betterads.org/standards/ [1]: https://www.betterads.org/members/


I get Google ads on mobile that flash and mislead. Virus Scan! Battery Scan! Clean Your Phone! With yellow and red. So at least on Android, Google serves tons of shit deserving blocking.


Gotcha. That makes sense


Less transportation required, which should be cheaper and better for the environment.


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