The vast majority of the planet uses a touchscreen phone or tablet as their primary (and sometimes only) computing device. The tech audience on HN is very far removed from how the rest of the world uses technology.
Yes, mobile phones use touchscreens, and billions of people have smartphones, that is correct. Yes the audience of HN is far removed, not gonna argue that. Because that's not what we're talking about.
Grandparent very correctly points out that mobile phones haven't replaced traditional keyboards, in fact there's probably more keyboards being sold now than at any point in history before, that's because phone touchscreen haven't replaced keyboards, they're just a new interface for a new device. 15 years later other devices are still using other interfaces, and the actual places where it has been replaced are not that many. Only point of sale machines and cars come to mind having replaced keyboards (and I'm being very generous, honestly I wouldn't even call that keyboards) with touchscreens, and some car brands are even starting to walk it back.
You said it wouldn't "blow up". You didn't say it would replace mechanical keyboards. It wouldn't. Noone said people were going to switch from using a mechanical keyboard to that. WE are talking about its usefulness for phones/tablets. Also, a phone's on-screen keyboard replaces a mechanical keyboard in that phones dont have a mechanical keyboard and people dont use a mechanical keyboard as their input device for that phone. If my car doesn't have a mechanical key, it has been replaced by a digital key. It doesn't matter if I make 5 copies of my house key.
So I can read the 20,000 story about how the author was told this recipe by their brothers husbands step-grandmother while vacationing at the lake house with their golden retriever named Max before I can get to the recipe.
While this joke is never mentioned and is hilarious every time, you'd be hard pressed to find a recipe site that didn't have either a "print" or "go to recipe" button at the top.
Right, but we're in the 1992 of these glasses. Maybe they'll be good eventually. They aren't now.
And frankly, even the online recipe experience leaves much to be desired. Skip past the blog post. Skip past the list of ingredients. Skip past another blog post. Find the single statblock on the bottom that lists ingredients & amounts, & instructions - hoping that it exists.
Like other commenters, I've also started going back to paper cookbooks.
Internet and recipe websites solve a real problem: accessing recipes was expensive and not easy
AR headsets don't solve any problems. If anything, they make up a nonexistent problem, attempts but fails to solve the problem, during which the experience becomes even worse.
I mean, depends on how you describe it. One could easily say:
Phone method:
* Find phone
* Search for the right app, before finding the right recipe
* Leave my phone on counter, constantly having to move it as I move plates, pans etc.
* Wash and dry hands after each step, before unlocking phone
* Clean it every time gunk gets to it
Meta glasses:
* They're already on, just ask for recipe
* No need to ever wash/dry hands, move a device around, or clean it since one can easily unlock it without touching it
Right? Similarly with cookbooks, the best case is great and the worst case is terrible. There's a reason there's a market for recipe websites, cookbooks, etc.
New gadget from mult-billion dollar company: showcases on a live demonstration that it's a broken piece of crap that doesn't work.
Like, are we forgetting that it didn't work? It sucked at the job! Let's not what-if or have some imaginary "okay, but pretend it's actually good," deal here. It was bad!
i got the art of italian cooking recently and it's genuinely far easier to get a recipe than trying to scroll through a 50 page monologue about the intracicies of someones childhood before even listing the ingredients
Indeed. There is an element of trust with an actual cookbook - it signals quality.
The internet over time has been riddled with junk, especially since the cost of production of information is just your opportunity cost of time. Even that is going away with the use of LLMs....
Core issue within the content age that I don't see being readily resolved. Unfortunately, I think the SEO marketing crowd are slowly catching up with LLMs, which is leading to poorer actual output when attempting to get information.
In the same way that google search used to be amazing before it was taken over by optimization, I think we're seeing a mass influx of content production to attempt to integrate itself into training corpus.
I have always believed there is a cost borne to get the best of something. This means a sacrifice is entailed. Theres something very important about this re. the culture - a culture in which everything is free is how you get crap stuff produced. And people settle for crap stuff just because its free.
People who can see the bigger picture when you have this, can see the dangers of it.
To note, you can buy the recipes and skip the dumpster internet or register to a site like cookpad. At this point even YouTube is a decent place for that.
I agree random recipes are hell on the internet, but it's also not something we're forced into if we care any bit about recipes in the first replace.
I tried for a while to get ChatGPT to generate connections style puzzles with some suggested topics, including red herrings to create some answers that seemingly fit in multiple categories. Then it would post them to https://connections.swellgarfo.com/. Overall they were really bad but that was using GPT4
Yes I think having an LLM generate such OnlyConnect style questions (with the right prompting) should solve for the problem this benchmark seems to have of LLMs, most likely, being trained on past years OnlyConnect questions.
it does, however I use it to send short demos when needed. GIF is perfect, small size, resolution isn't critical, it's a perfect choice for me. I don't like sending 300Mb of video every time I have a small thing to demonstrate, GIFs on the other hand work like a charm. Which is why I am shopping for alternatives
I read the one on the left but choose the shorter one.
The interface wastes so much screen real estate already and the answers are usually overly verbose unless I've given explicit instructions on how to answer.
The default level of verbosity you get without explicitly prompting for it to be succinct makes me think there’s an office full of workers getting paid by the token.
Playlists allow spotify to create a moat. It encourages you to listen to (and build) playlists, that wouldn't then be easily available if you try to switch platforms
For those unaware, there are services like TuneMyMusic [1] and Soundiiz [2] that allow you to transfer playlists between platforms for a fee.
Spotify did shut down certain API endpoints last month [3] though, so there's no guarantee these services may continue working for Spotify. Worst case scenario you'd have to download your data [4] and then figure out a way to create playlists on the other platform.
Advertising an Apple-owned app within another Apple-owned app is not the same as Microsoft putting 3rd party ads in the primary interface for launching applications in the OS.
We understand it well enough to know that animals suffer, yet still commit on the order of a Holocaust per hour (in terms of number of lives)[0]. We have accepted that we don't care enough.
What is "suffer" in this context? Are you saying "pain", or are you positing some "meta-pain" that is worse?
Also, why is pain important to you? The pain of non-human things has zero moral weight. I know it's a popular spirituality that gives pain moral weight, but as far as I can tell some 20th century philosophy jerkoff invented it out of nothing and everyone accepts that "reducing pain" is important without even trying to rationalize it.
I haven't "accepted that I do not care enough", it's that no one can supply a good reason to care in the first place. To me, it seems as if the rest of you are all trying to replace the last religion you stopped believing in with another that's just as bizarrely stupid.
Well, my point was made in reference to the original comment which said
> If consciousness is not well understood, how is AI on silicon allowed, or any computing machines at all
Which implies that we should care about some kind of suffering inflicted on conscious beings. My argument was that we don't care about AI suffering because we don't really care that much about suffering generally, because of what we chose to do to animals.
