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I'd say Bell is the OG, which was founded about 40 years before IBM.


For some scale, Final Fantasy XIV makes about $65 million in annual revenue (and decreasing).


According to their latest financial earnings on page 11 of https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/pdf/25q4slides... they made 55.5 billion yen or about $357 million. So quite a bit more revenue than $65 million


141m operating revenue for the mmo sector


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That's correct! You've correctly interpreted the document -- they had 324.5 B yen total sales. FF14 is on page 11, made 55.5B yen sales. and grew 8B yen yoy.


I think this signals to data center builders that Montana wants their business, and this is really just a publicity stunt.


It's one experiment because both systems are competing at the same time for global resources both in cooperation and competition with each other and other actors. Additional both systems exist in such widely different contexts that any comparison would be inaccurate because other factors such as geographic and historical have a large impact on any measured results.


I share the same skepticism, but I have more patience to watch an emerging technology advance and forgiving as experts come to a consensus while communicating openly.


Yes, many of us have also taken a college statistical course and understand correlation != causation. Yes, pop-sci articles will more heavily infer there is a causation, and this is bad for public trust in science. Also, dismissing all correlation studies is bad for public trust in science. There's several very good reasons why we do correlation studies, and they actual return interesting data.

I'd like to point out that blood alcohol levels are not 1 to 1 connected to level of impairment, but still serve as a useful indicator for ability to drive. Those with high tolerances behave differently than those with lower tolerances. The current Cannabis test is far from perfect, but seems to be the best proxy we have available for empirical evidence of level of impairment.


> The current Cannabis test is far from perfect, but seems to be the best proxy we have available for empirical evidence of level of impairment.

Why do we need a "proxy?" What about good ol' field sobriety testing? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_sobriety_testing


There's no methods of field sobriety testing that are actually reliable, what it's best at doing is allowing police to get probable cause even if a sober driver just happens to not be good at something they've not done before and are being asked to do in the dark and cold outside their car in a high stress moment; or, worse, if the police officer judging them is just biased and wanting to subjectively decide they failed.

I'm pretty sure lawyers' advice is generally to say no when asked to take a field sobriety test, as you're basically only asked to do it if the police already think you're going to fail and therefore will be at minimum subconsciously biases towards expecting that. Much better to only let them do any breath/blood tests they can legally insist on. (At least, if you are indeed sober. I don't know what the best advice is if you're going to fail those tests, maybe in that case a tiny chance of being convincing with a field sobriety test is worth the chance?)


Also AOL was a mix of dialup provider and Dotcom service. There were many other popular examples of such.


I don't think it is fair to characterize AOL as a bubble baby- they were a thing before that


Nor I dont think Coget, GX or Level-3 were dotcom companies.


A lot of the infrastructure made during the Dotcom boom was shortly discarded. How many dial-up modems were sold in the 90s?

The current AI bubble is leading to trained models that won't be feasible to retrain for a decade or longer after the bubble bursts.


The wealth the Dotcom boom left behind wasn't in dial up modems or internet over the telephone, it was in the huge amounts of high speed fiber optic networks that were laid down. I think a lot of that infrastructure is still in use today, fiber optic cables can last 30 years or more.


> fiber optic cables can last 30 years or more

The trenches for the cables even longer than that.


How much of it is still dark?


Honestly, not that many people had modems.


In the late 90s to 2001? Many people were still using modems at that time. Cable or DSL wasn't even an option for a considerable percentage of the population.


In 2000 6% of the population had access to internet.

In 2002 I was woking making webs and setting up linux servers and I did not have internet at home.


This is pretty location specific—in the US 42% of households had home internet in 2000.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/189349/us-households-hom...


That web is not a good source.


Yes it is.

Low Global Penetration: Only 361 million people had internet access worldwide in 2000, a small fraction of the global population. Specific Country Examples United States: The US had a significant portion of the world's internet users, making up 31.1% of all global users in 2000. Its penetration rate was 43.1%.


Not still using, flat out modemless. Lots of guys got their hand on a mouse for the first time only after Windows XP launched. Which was after the collapse.


Windows 95 didnt even have Internet by default.

It had the Microsoft network or whatever it was called.


One of the side effects of having a chat interface, is that there is no moat around it. Using it is natural.

Changing from Windows to Mac or iOS to Android requires changing the User Interface. All of these chat applications have essentially the same interface. Changing between ChatGPT and Claude is essentially like buying a different flavor of potato chip. There is some brand loyalty and user preference, but there is very little friction.


> Waymo showed it's not a bubble.

Waymo is showing it might not be a bubble. They are selling rides in five cities. Let's see how they do in 100 cities.


You aren't living it. I live in SF, I ride waymos every freaking day. SF has some of the tightest roads and hardest driving. Just living in SF I already know they can scale to the entire country.


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