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For all the authoritarian regime talk. Here we have a list of many non-citizens willing to argue with the secretary of war of a country they are a temporary resident of, with no concern of repercussion.

“no concern of repercussion”

Your worldview is outdated. There are obviously risks to signing this. Get your head out of the sand.


Your country also pays less and has fewer jobs.

Increasing the cost to fire, increases the cost to hire.


And yet we live longer and with higher quality of life, by most standards (chronic and mental illnesses, life expectancy, etc).

No need to turn it into a dick measuring context, we have plenty of flaws of our own.

Just pointing out that legal or not, under most morals systems, loudly proclaiming that you’re willing to screw your people for no clear necessity will get you socially ostracized.


> No need to turn it into a dick measuring context

Yes, which is why it’s not helpful to bring up a completely different economic system with an unfamiliar culture.

Why are you saying this in the next sentence:

> yet we live longer and with higher quality of life


>If the business is not able to be profitable everyone is screwed.

Sure, we agree there. It’s not like needing profitability is a weird quirk of the American system. I am not criticizing the layoffs, but the layoffs while mentioning business is booming and they have no reasons forcing their hand.

I’m curious about your point of view, would you applaud and support your employer taking this attitude? Firing half the workers while agreeing that there is no pressure to let anyone go looks good to you?


> would you applaud and support your employer taking this attitude?

I don’t see my employer as an owner or steward of me. I think we are in business relationship where both sides win. If circumstances change I understand I may need to find a new job.


>I don’t see my employer as an owner or steward of me.

They don’t need to be. You can both recognize a freedom to do something and yet consider it wrong.

The fact that you and your employer both are approaching a negotiation freely does not make the relationship balanced.

If you leave a company of 10k people, the CEO will not be waking up the next morning in anxiety wondering how to feed their children. If said CEO fires 5k people, many of the fired workers will. A business owner who is not aware and respectful of this fact is not acting morally.


Being upset would be because trust or expectations were violated. My expectation is I or my employer may end our business at any time.

I actually was laid off by Block, about eleven months ago. I got slightly less severance than these folks.

I wasn’t at all upset that they chose to lay me off. I wouldn’t have felt any guilt about leaving that job when it was no longer economically beneficial to me, so why would I expect anything different from them? This is a business transaction, I’m selling labor, I’m not entitled to a buyer. The outrage over layoffs seems so bizarre to me.


> Musk is a deeply uncreative person

Do you have a portfolio or something you can share?

Someone can have negative character traits and we don’t have to pretend they are no longer skilled.


Do you have a source for your post?

A source for what? Are we pretending Elon is not one of the most successful promoters of new ventures?

If you think 5 months is bad, try none. Job loss is a reality. Don’t become emotionally invested in it never happening to you.

> environmentally sound

Don’t they just put in an envelope? The mailman comes by anyway


Spending $3 to ship a $0.05 part across the country should give you an idea of what a waste of resources it is.

The IRS says it costs $0.50 (maybe more now) per mile to drive your car. $3 will get you 3 miles away, round-trip.

It's far more efficient and environmentally-friendly to mail you components in small envelopes.


That’s less than the cost of a 34 mile round trip to and from Radio Shack, especially these days.

This. The real problems are arbitrary pre-install scripts and a culture of not knowing what’s in the dependency tree

Complexity theory studies inherent growth in problems, not bound to a particular machine

This is exciting! This sounds like a great application because it’s mostly tedious work to adjust an existing driver to another device.

The used that title because more people will see and remember it.

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