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People are sick and tired of anti-white (pro-nonwhite) de jure policies and replacement immigration. They feel this country is their rightful homeland and are angry that they had no vote in being replaced. These reactions could have been predicted and were. I guess you can call that "racist" and "white supremacist" but the name-calling just eggs them on and is "not an argument." Instead, let's explain why the white era that started in Athens is now over and that's just natural progress. And if they are genocided in the process well that would be sad. Or I guess we could just dox them.


We've banned this account for ideological trolling.


WTF is this argument? Where is the replacement happening? A Mexican sneaks across the border and now does my gardening. Who did he replace?

How is the era of Athens over, because a brown person is allowed to attend my University and learn about Plato and Socrates while sitting next to me?


They see the drip-drip-drip of "brown" people unfurling the Mexican flag, municipal swimming pools with men-only hours and University foot baths.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miriam-rosenbaum/womens-only-s...

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/muslim-footbaths-threaten...

http://www.newsweek.com/white-nationalists-are-right-america...


When I was a kid I never heard of peanut allergies. What happened? Did children's guts change? Did peanuts?



only if they resist lawful orders


Dying to know which part of that whole debacle was lawful.


Take it from a lawyer: Do not argue with them. Pilots and ship captains are special. Their word is law. You can sue them afterwards, you can report them to police and they could be charged if they had no good reason to order your removal. But at that moment on that plane they are kings. If a pilot wants you off you have to get off. Once the pilot requested police help there was nothing that man could have done to stay aboard.

They should not have treated him in that way, they should not have been violent, but so long as the pilot wanted him off he was obligated.


Untrue in my jurisdiction and likely others. We have a limited range of circumstances in which the pilot in charge (or their delegates viz. cabin crew) may compel disembarkation. Drunkenness or presenting a safety risk are on that list. Overbooking is not.

So no, I won't "take it from a lawyer".


So then one possible course of action in case of post-boarding overbooking would be free drinks until enough passengers are sufficiently drunk to be removed? One more for the endless list of less bad things that could have been done instead at the United incident.


That's isnt the same thing. The pilot can be incorrect. Him ordering your removal can be a criminal act. Him ordering you off could see him put in jail. There were cases about this decades ago (think white captains refusing black passengers). That doesn't mean that a passenger can stay once ordered off. Whether the removal order is legal or not comes afterwards.


You can beat the rap, you can't beat the ride.


Anything that causes a delay can be a potential safety risk


Like trying to throw someone already boarded out of the plane, involving security officers, police, violence and broken teeth? Yes, I would definitely say that that kind of behaviour was a really outrageous safety risk. The pilot, accordingly to your narrative, should have thrown out of the aircraft all the crew and whoever was involved in this gigantic fuck up to avoid a very serious safety risk.


Take it from a lawyer: Do not argue with them. Pilots and ship captains are special. Their word is law.

A lot of those rules kick in only after the door is closed, or when the aircraft pulls back from the gate.


True, but a pilot can leverage that later power by not taking posession of the plane. Door stays open, airline cancels flight and everyone is now a trespassor and must get off.


You still don't get to "beat them up"


So is there a simulation of a legal system also? How will it determine lawfulness?


when Hispanic bisexual women take over this world and start abusing their privilege like the cishetero patriarchy then we will criticize them. Until then, please sit down.


these misogynist women-hating lunks turn my stomach. They need to terminated immediately, be humiliated on social media and have their careers ruined forever. They can wear their stupid war jackets while they cry.


Ranty comments do your passion no service regardless of the strength of your conviction.


I'm afraid controlled rationality has lost its cause sometime ago. Action and anger are now necessary.


probably better to be silent than to feed the alt-right, neo-Nazi trolls. Why can't privileged white people just keep quiet and listen for a while. It's time we recognize the tremendous contribution to computer science made by African-Americans. There is no place on HN for intolerance and hate.


Thank you thank you thank you. This is an exhausting post but your comment makes it so easy to understand!


We will be finally able to concentrate on intersectional feminist theory and inclusion when all the fucking white racists are dead.


I thought I was the only one who though this. I am not a software engineer the same way I am not a software doctor or a software banana for that matter. Reminds me of, was it Rosanne Barr?, who coined "Domestic Engineer" and we all laughed. Words matter. I can see from these comments that we are alone but at least it's not just me anymore!


Software doctor almost sounds like it could be a useful term for someone whose role is diagnosing and curing software defects. But the term "software engineer" is already suitable for someone who applies scientific/engineering rigor to the production of software.


> diagnosing and curing software defects

That's literally my job right now. If I could claim the title of Doctor I'd totally be for certification (but for purely, very selfish reasons).


Is using human common sense out of the question? Too many images? Too hard? Who would decide?


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