Fascinating. Sharing with a beekeeper friend, thank you

We’ve dug this hole ourselves, without knowing better, over the last decade or so. Most social life / communications happens inside those platforms.

If we want our kids to thrive in the world without being hooked on this attention syphoning machines, we must get the socials out of those walled gardens.

This is a huge challenge, and no one but us will build it. It will require deliberate action in our community.

It's a massive struggle. I'm somewhat thankful that we didn't have kids until after it was apparent what the impact of this sort of ecosystem has on them, and it's refreshing to meet other parents who feel the same way. Who knows what kind of success we'll have, but it's reassuring to know that there's a push from at least some subset of parents with littles.

> We’ve dug this hole ourselves, without knowing better, over the last decade or so.

I tire of hearing this.

We definitely knew better. I definitely did. Lots of people who did not opt into these services did. We were not silent about it.

Everyone else just refused to listen. Willful ignorance is how they got there.

As the parent of an 8 yr old, I absolutely feel this.

We use CDs at home, thanks to my wife resisting getting rid of her huge collection years ago. Mine got stolen :(

They may have been first released in 1982, but CDs are still the most high-tech widespread way to buy music. Newer technologies to buy music, like SACD and DVD-A have never had widespread support.

Awesome! My kiddos love digging through my vinyl collection.

Love it!

I have been dj’ing for ~20 years, and have a sizeable house music vinyl collection. I can’t wait for my kiddo to get into it. She’s showing interest already.

Same! ~25 years or so for me. I'm just now letting my oldest begin to manipulate the vinyl records beyond just playing them, but they've both loved slapping CDs into my CDJs and going wild with them.

No fluff intro

I’m fairly sure I downloaded a copy way back when, probably from some BBS, from the other end of the world where I used to live

That, and the Anarchist Cookbook..

For a brief moment I used Netflix, but very quickly went back to actually watching anything by I want.

I feel for the kids that are waking up to this enshitification, without a clue on how to sail.

People who take steps in response to social contract being broken are the ones responsible for the steps they've taken, not the ones who break the social contract.

What?

Whoops wrong thread

You are not crazy.

> Those means had nothing to do with a FIRE strategy. I just saved, lived humbly, and stayed at a job for a couple of decades.

Finally some real talk for common folk. Godspeed, friend