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One of you ought to find out what really did happen, and tell us. I can only do the lame thing and quote Wikipedia:

> China had no such legislation until 1997. That year, China's sole legislative body – the National People's Congress (NPC) – passed CL97, a law that deals with cyber crimes, which it divided into two broad categories: crimes that target computer networks, and crimes carried out over computer networks. Behavior illegal under the latter category includes, among many things, the dissemination of pornographic material, and the usurping of "state secrets."


Hey, I'm not rich and powerful, how dare you.

I'm enjoying the way this dispute reflects on the USSR. We were the first to try to escape! No, we were the first, years before that! No, you're both wrong, it was us!

> Because these algae are photosynthetic ... "We’re storing carbon while we’re producing light"

The circle of light! Perpetual illumination! Let the algae do photosynthesis using their own light output as energy!

What's happening, chemically? Let's see ... it's luciferin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Luciferin_Light_Emission_... Isn't that CO2 being emitted on the right, there?


I think they mean the algae is in sunlight during the day and growing, producing light only at night.

Could be. So over the mentioned four weeks, the algae is reproducing more cells in sunlight, and emitting light at night, while gradually wearing out in some way and "retaining 75% of their brightness". Then at the end of the month you have a bucket of tired algae, and that's the stored carbon. I don't know what you do with it. You probably shouldn't chuck it in a river. Its likely fate is methane, wherever you put it.

That sounds kinda like carbon capture, but decentralized to these light nodes

It seems to me that it has the same problem as carbon capture, which is how to make the result inert, or which deep hole to pump it into. Two people apparently silently disagreed with this, I wonder what was bothering them?

Unlike artificial carbon capture, natural carbon capture like algae here become insect/worm/bird feed or manure/coal.

if the output is consistent, could be used for producing biofuel or plastic.

* I'm not in that city.

* It's running a kind of Chrome on a kind of Linux, at a stretch.

* Nobody can infer when I work and when I sleep. That includes me.

* The recent, high-end display is the screen of a low-end tablet I bought in a supermarket five years ago.

* But yes, browser fingerprinting is annoying.

* Since you can detect light mode, would it kill you to honor it?


The amount of fingerprinting this page reveals pales in comparison to what actually happens in the wild

its ease is also vastly inflated. If it was as simple as this site makes it out to be, companies like fingerprint.com don't exist.

Don't know about easy but their JS lib doing this is quite good:

https://github.com/fingerprintjs/fingerprintjs

Honestly surprised to see it licensed as MIT now too. It was something less permissive before. They aren't doing anything too crazy, more like being the first ones to be open about it.

I couldn't imagine what else companies like Google or Meta or TikTok can extract out of it that no one else can't. Integrations aren't exactly hard to make, quality is hard yes, but making half assed plumbing is sufficient too.

Those advertisers benefit from monopolistic markets with zero regulation while owning the platforms they sell advertising on that requires their explicit malware in order to use, what is unique about their finger printing versus what fingerprintjs provides?


This also exists: https://abrahamjuliot.github.io/creepjs/

TBH, its never anything super exotic (though it helps) but simple stupid basic things like cookies that does 70% of the work here. Also, your IP address at home is _really_stable_.

If I can give you a sticky cookie (cookies, indexdb, localstorage), a half-assed fingerprint, and tie it to your IP-address, and know you're not on a cell-tower; this is probably good enough for most purposes.

Use safari on private relay in private mode.


I knew about this library but is it legal in the EU? Because that library works very well

* That's the wrong battery percentage and the wrong charging status.

> Since you can detect light mode, would it kill you to honor it?

It would probably still be low contrast garbage even if it did. :/


The 100% charging readout is the desktop-with-no-battery phantom. I pushed a stricter filter for that earlier, you may be on a cached copy (try a hard refresh). On the light-mode call: the page detects your preference but doesn't honor it, intentionally. The irony being that the demo ignores the same signal it points out. I take the cost of the annoyance.

Okay but it's really hard to read for those of us with old people eyes.

I'm 36 and I struggled to read it.

... Wait, 36 isn't old is it??


> It would probably still be low contrast garbage even if it did. :/

My guess this is LLM slop website generation. And they forgot to prompt to include high contrast text... And the site owner cant make the changes without a sloperator.


yeah it told me I'm "in Los Angeles" but that's just the time zone I'm in. It also "thinks" that because I have two different languages as inputs that it has scored some kind of "gotcha", but I just happen to also frequently use a second language .

"English · Chinese Your browser’s primary language is English. It also carries Chinese. This tells us not just what language you speak, but often where you were raised, where you have lived, or who you live with. This is transmitted in the header of every HTTP request. It has been doing this for as long as you have used this browser."

No, the fact that I have English and Chinese as input languages does not tell it "where I was raised, where I have lived, or who I have lived with.". Might as well say "the fact that you're using a phone to look at the Internet tells reveals that you are someone who can access a phone to look at the Internet!". Yes, technologies interact with other technologies. That's how "technologies" work. Is it Orwellian? Yes. But is it more Orwellian than the surveillance states of Russia/China/North Korea. etc? We also can now find our phones/cars/devices that can share location, locate criminals by way of their online activity, record incidents that"need" to be recorded (like when ppl are committing crimes or when police officers need to be held accountable for their behavior). Catastrophizing about the "overreach" of tech is a cognitive choice. That all being said, it is good to be aware of what info our technologies "know" about us.


> I'm not in that city.

I'm using Apple's Private Relay VPN so it was hundreds of miles off. It's always interesting to see where websites or services think I'm located using their geolocation databases, but if I turn it off they can pinpoint me within a couple of miles. Thankfully almost nobody has ever blocked Apple's VPN, so I never have to turn it off.

> Since you can detect light mode, would it kill you to honor it?

Seriously, I'm in my mid-30s but some of these dark mode sites make me feel mid-80s. I can't see shit on this site.


> I'm not in that city.

Same, it claims Brussels, but I'm in Antwerp. It also got my screen resolution wrong.


> I'm not in that city.

Same, it said Riverside but I'm in San Diego (about 100 miles away from Riverside).

Of course, its just using a geolocation database for the IP address and thus reporting the location of some switching center Verizon runs and not my actual location.

If you're trying to prove a point about privacy its probably best not to lead off with information that can be off by hundreds of miles while presenting the fact that it "knows" this information as being darkly ominous.

Presenting this information while being wrong probably does the opposite of the site's intent and gives some people a false sense of security because what real websites and apps track about you using digital fingerprinting is a lot more detailed, personalized and (usually) correct than what this website presents.


> Nobody can infer when I work and when I sleep. That includes me.

Are you like /severed/ or something? Surely you can infer when you work and sleep from your experience living your life as you.


> Surely you can infer when you work and sleep from your experience living your life as you.

Not everybody has a schedule. Mine is essentially "eat when hungry, sleep when tired", and my sleep patterns more closely follow a 26-hour day than a 24-hour day.


This is fascinating, please do tell more about it! How does it affect your mental health? How do you deal with times day and night are flipped? How does it affect your social life?

> How does it affect your mental health?

That it should in some way affect my mental health has never once occurred to me. If anything, i assume that living on one's body's own natural schedule would be optimal in terms of related effects on mental health.

> How do you deal with times day and night are flipped?

When there's not something pressing me into a schedule, e.g. a job, i kind of "circle around" to a conventional schedule every few weeks. All things considered, i prefer the "swapped" times because it's quieter at night. e.g. less traffic driving by, fewer neighbors making various noises, and no DHL/UPS/DPD deliveries for the neighbors being dropped off here because the neighbors aren't home (whereas i am almost always at home and both the neighbors and the local delivery folks know it).

i'm a retiree so, with the exception of shopping and rare appointments, the night/day or weekend/weekend[^1] are not generally distinctions which affect me, and it's never bothered me in the slightest to not have a fixed schedule. On the contrary, a fixed schedule somewhat bums me out long-term, presumably because it does not match my biological clock.

> How does it affect your social life?

My social life is (by preference and choice) comprised solely of (A) my FOSS work, and there's no clock associated with any of that, and (B) my wife. Both my and my wife's biological families are all on another continent, so we've no family obligations which require physical presence. When i'm not FOSS'ing, we play a lot of board games.

[^1]: stores are closed on Sundays and all public holidays in Germany. More than once i've gone to the store, only to discover it's closed due to a holiday i've overlooked (like, most recently, May 1st).


Supposedly we naturally gravitate to a 26–hour cycle (experiments done with people living underground and with no clocks)

It was much better for me.

* Your socks don't match anything in the room.

* The man you thought you killed in Tuscaloosa woke up and walked home an hour later and is now a chiropractor in Shreveport.

* Your daughter is pregnant by the kid who trims the hedges.

* Your dog is dreaming about the squirrel in the wood pile.

How does it know?


This is all common knowledge, unfortunately.

What is "it"? Putting the two halves together, the sort of people who want to be in a community where they aren't wanted are the sort of people you don't want in that community. I guess I can't argue with that.

They are talking about social norms. Inversely, "creepers".

Most adults understand why men should not, generally, be hanging out in the women's clothing department. When accidental violations of those norms are pointed out, they apologize and correct. Creepers, OTOH, gonna creep.

For their own well-being, online communities should police repeated violation of social norms. Otherwise the normals leave and creepers take over.


I spose. But labelling deviants (from the norm) and chasing them away is hazardous, because if you overdo it you end up with an echo chamber. How dare you talk to the people who others don't talk to, you traitor! Now you have to be ostracized too ... is how it might go.

(I can't help thinking of the Father Ted Christmas special, where a group of priests have to organize a quasi-military operation in order to escape from Ireland's largest lingerie department without a scandal.)


Or is it the result of government policies? Then we should look to the governments in control of the biggest portions.

I feel like the alt captions for the images, although diligent and thorough, don't really capture the most important aspects.

That got downvoted. But alt images are for inclusivity, for people who can't see the images. Only one of these says "surreal", the rest of them would lead you to believe that they are normal images. So it's performative inclusivity that actually excludes people. It would have been better to say "this AI generated image of the act of knitting is accidentally bizarre in a subtle way" as the alt text for every image.

It's superficially true, currently. We've had generative AI for a few years and people are using it to make a quick buck. But even if the world had been taken over by communism, or if the Western Highlands of Papua New Guinea had got imperial ambitions and now we all lived in a gift economy, people would still be using generative AI to gain attention and status. This will work until it wears thin. Thinner.

You don't have the ability to predict progress, either.

Well, I'm not clairvoyant, but this is a very easy prediction to make. And we're not talking about decades in the future, this is simply a matter of letting the near-future unfold.

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