And the person you're replying to is someone who thinks "The case where Canada must be annexed is if Greenland somehow remains part of Denmark"! The veneer of civility on this site lets some really incredible people slip under the radar.
Flour as you know it is not quite the same thing as meal milled at the time when the words were being invented. Wheatmeal is still a thing, look up images of it and the resemblance to oatmeal should be a lot more apparent!
I would class porridge oats as what might be called 'rolled oats' if you were buying animal feed. They are not ground, but crushed under a rolling stone. I guess they have different terms for different markets. Never seen rolled wheat, but I have seen rolled barley and oats.. they looks like porridge oats. Or is it an Atlantic divide, but with the US foodie term crossing back in the food market
The conservative subreddit isn't fake as such, it's just incredibly tightly curated and so not in any way representative. Number of deleted comments is a better barometer than tone of remaining comments, if still not a great one, because you're simply not going to see any significant number straying too far from the party line.
I mean, there's plenty of disagreement to the point many call anyone who dissents "fellow conservative", which has become kind of a joke. The official line is they remove any non-conservative posts, which doesn't seem relevant when assessing to what extent conservative posters support what is going in with ICE currently.
This is a sort of interesting point, it's true that knowingly-metaphorical anthropomorphisation is hard to distinguish from genuine anthropomorphisation with them and that's food for thought, but the actual situation here just isn't applicable to it. This is a very specific mistaken conception that people make all the time. The OP explicitly thought that the model would know why it did the wrong thing, or at least followed a strategy adjacent to that misunderstanding. He was surprised that adding extra slop to the prompt was no more effective than telling it what to do himself. It's not a figure of speech.
> No one gets in trouble for saying that 2 + 2 is 5, or that people in Pittsburgh are ten feet tall. Such obviously false statements might be treated as jokes, or at worst as evidence of insanity, but they are not likely to make anyone mad. The statements that make people mad are the ones they worry might be believed. I suspect the statements that make people maddest are those they worry might be true.
People are upset when AIs are anthropomorphized because they feel threatened by the idea that they might actually be intelligent.
Hence the woefully insufficient descriptions of AIs such as "next token predictors" which are about as fitting as describing Terry Tao as an advanced gastrointestinal processor.
The comment you replied to made a point that, if you accept it (which you probably should), makes that PG quote inapplicable here. The issue in this case is that treating the model as though it has useful insight into its own operation - which is being summarized as anthropomorphizing - leads to incorrect conclusions. It’s just a mistake, that’s all.
There's this underlying assumption of consistency too - people seem to easily grasp that when starting on a task the LLM could go in a completely unexpected direction, but when that direction has been set a lot of people expect the model to stay consistent. The confidence with which it answers questions plays tricks on the interlocutor.
I am speaking general terms - not just this conversation here. The only specific figure of speech I see in the original comment is "self reflection" which doesn't seem to be in question here.
I think what these people mean is that it's difficult to get them to be racist, sexist, antisemitic, transphobic, to deny climate change, etc. Still not even the same thing because Western models will happily talk about these things.
This is a statement of facts, just like the Tiananmen Square example is a statement of fact. What is interesting in the Alibaba Cloud case is that the model output is filtered to remove certain facts. The people claiming some "both sides" equivalence, on the other hand, are trying to get a model to deny certain facts.
“We have facts, they have falsities”. I think the crux of the issue here is that facts don’t exist in reality, they are subjective by their very nature. So we have on one side those who understand this, and absolutists like yourself who believe facts are somehow unimpugnable and not subjective. Well, China has their own facts, you have yours, I have mine, and we can only arrive at a fact by curating experiential events. For example, a photograph is not fact, it is evidence of an event surely, but it can be manipulated or omit many things (it is a projection, visible light spectrum only, temporally biased, easily editable these days [even in Stalin’s days]), and I don’t want to speak for you but I’d wager you’d consider it as factual.
The problem with this example is scale. A person is rational, but systems of people, sharing essentially gossip, at scale, is... complicated. You might also consider what happened in China during the last time there was a leader who riled up all of the youth, right? I think all systems have a 'who watches the watchmen' problem. And more broadly, the problem with censorship isn't the censorship, its that it can be wielded by bad actors against the common good, and it has a bit of ratcheting effect, where once something is censored, you can't discuss whether it should be censored.
That is exactly the point. It's working because everyone is peacefully going along with it. They have the consent - or at least acquiescence - of the governed. That's why they have no issues.
It is, therefore, not remotely relevant to your post starting this whole thread off saying that the consent of the governed is irrelevant and all you need is tanks.
> They have the consent - or at least acquiescence - of the governed.
They don't have the consent. And all they needed to get acquiescence was a bunch of poorly trained goons with masks, weapons, suv-s and official mandate. Not a single tank was needed yet.
Consent is irrelevant.
The only saving grace is that actual people with tanks (ie military) might at some point say 'nah'. Which I think they did in case of Greenland. Simply because it was too weird for them as opposed to Venezuela and Iran.
Just say Starlink or SpaceX, obviously. When would you ever say "Bill should work on fixing Outlook" or "Mark should improve the WhatsApp gif picker"??
Actually we call them arbitrageurs and see them as helping to minimise price distortions across markets. It's only in a small number of consumer facing contexts where retailers deliberately sell goods below the price set by supply and demand that some call them scalpers.
Also landlords, even the psychotically greedy ones doing things like this article describes, are neither arbitraging nor scalping. That'd be house flippers.
The problem with the "arbitrage" argument is the scale of the arbitrage is a market maker.
When theyre constantly rent seeking you no longer have prices set by demand, rather supply set by a sustainable rate.
Thats why lawsuits against algorithmic rent setting are occiring. Part of the supply of units is being withheld by the algorithm to inflate prices and get higher ROI.
IN your pov, this is arbitrage. Real arbitrage requires an external factor no one controls.
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