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90% of stocks are owned by 10% of the population... Are you guys crying for the rich?


oh the irony


He who is free of sin..


On average people are incapable of holding a moral position through to the end.

- Bad parenting is bad, we should have a permit for it --> are you ready to get denied the right to try having kids?

- Thou shalt not kill --> except those really bad people I don't like!

- Stealing is bad --> except when you're "starving"

Our perception of good and evil are multifaceted, with most of it happening in our background cognition.

There is a strange "mirror" stopping people from exchanging once a rift has opened. Someone else posited that it might be a fight or flight reaction.

I posit that our cognition is based on negation, and thus the shape of our tool impact our results.


Maybe. Killing or stealing for a reason doesn't make the action morally good, just less morally bad than the outcome it was intended to prevent. I've never heard the first parenting example.


we may not be wired by default to include unknown unknowns in our decision making, even when we manage to include known unknowns :p


Most people are afraid of words, not a great start for discussion :p

And then there are forbidden words, words that make you lose your job, or your freedom...


Agreed, cognition and philosophy are technologies, tools. They shape what we can extract from them.

Thus the problem is not political but philosophical, how would we decide what to do when we cant decide what is worth more. We are stuck in a local maximum, with Reality as the fitness function :p


I think humanity as a whole (not individual tribes) is quite good at getting out of local maxima in the past 2000 years.

Stable socioeconomic systems that in isolation could've existed for millennia are constantly getting crushed by their slightly more effective neighbors. When they're not crushed from the outside, they get consumed from within. In the end the better economy wins most of the time.


I've noticed this too, on average people are incapable of holding a moral position through to the end.

- Bad parenting is bad, we should have a permit for it --> are you ready to get denied the right to try having kids?

- Thou shalt not kill --> except those really bad people I don't like!

- Stealing is bad --> except when you're "starving"

Our perception of good and evil are multifaceted, with most of it happening in our background cognition.

There is a strange "mirror" stopping people from exchanging once a rift has opened. Someone else posited that it might be a fight or flight reaction.

I posit that our cognition is based on negation, and thus the shape of our tool impact our results.


I use Explorer Patcher for this, works well enough (though I had to uninstall it to update windows then reinstall it)


let us ban knives then...

got a license for that mate?


There's already a UK ban on carrying knives in public unless you have an occupational need and they're wrapped up or at least not just sitting in your pocket.

Licensing wouldn't be worthwhile as almost every household would want knives for food preparation.


This is a tired stereotype.

The US has more stabbings per-capita than the UK does, even on top of the shootings.


It would be a miracle if the US experienced mass shootings at the rate the UK experiences mass stabbings.


> It would be a miracle if the US experienced mass shootings at the rate the UK experiences mass stabbings.

It would indeed be a miracle as the US would drastically have to reduce their number of shootings to get down to the number of UK mass stabbings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_stabbings_in_the_...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_...


That is why I said that, as the comparison is pretty weak. The US' gun problem basically wouldn't be a topic of discussion if it was occurring at the rate mass stabbings do in the UK.


"Coffee is mostly terrible in Italy"

say what?


Might be it's just not something we are used to in NZ/AU - in Italy you get like 20ml of espresso or if it's cappuccino it's something like 50ml. Quality will be ok. But I can't remember getting 100-200ml drink (i.e. cortado, flat white) for longer enjoyment.


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