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Yep. Mossad is a terrorist group roleplaying as an intelligence agency.

So the indiscriminate mass detonation of explosive devices is not terrorism? Are you aware of how many civilian casualties there were as a result of this attack? Would this be acceptable if Hezbollah did this to Israeli military officers?

The attack was by definition discriminate. I don't think there's an attack in modern history that was more targeted and had less collateral damage. The attack targeted hundreds Hezbollah leaders, who bought and used those pagers. There was minimal collateral damage among civilians amounting to unverified allegations that a child of a Hezbollah member was maimed, and some minor other damage. The explosives in the pagers were measured in grams, and the explosions were relatively small, specifically to minimize collateral damage.

It was indiscriminate in timing, location, and device possession.

Unless you’re saying that the country behind a self-evaluated >80% civilian to combatant kill ratio in Gaza went through rigorous protocols to minimize harm in this attack?


The timing was during a war, the location was in a belligerent country, and the pagers were only and exclusively given to hezbollah leadership. The very definition of discriminate.

Also, Israel has not "self-evaluated" a >80% civilian to combatant kill ratio. There was a Haaretz report that said the IDF was able to ID about 20% of those killed as militants against known databases, which is remarkably high compared to any other war. That doesn't mean the remaining 80% are civilians, it just means they weren't ID'd against a databse. So this includes anyone with a gun at a distance. Do you think Ukraine has a database of Russian soldiers and are able to ID 20% of the russian soldiers they kill against that database? Of course not. Israel's self evaluation of the ratio varies between 1.4:1 and 2:1 depending on the government official you quote.


Re: timing - They were triggered to explode en masse, which implies that there was zero consideration to minimizing civilian harm.

Re: location - They exploded everywhere you can think of, while these targets were doing civilian activities near other civilians, and not in a combat setting.

Re: possession - Given the above, and Israel’s horrendous kill ratio, there was definitely no consideration for possession of these pagers at the time of the attack. For example, who is to say that some pagers weren’t in use by members of the political bureau, or unofficially resold to a hospital for use by oncall doctors?


> Re: timing - They were triggered to explode en masse, which implies that there was zero consideration to minimizing civilian harm.

Zero? The whole nature of the attack shows consideration towards "minimizing civilian harm." Tricking an enemy agent into carrying a small explosive device on his person, then detonating it, will have far less civilian harm than the standard procedure of dropping a bomb on whatever building they happen to be in.

Your thinking appears unreasonably binary here, as shown by your use of phrases like "zero consideration" and "definitely no consideration," in reaction to Israel not meeting an unrealistically high standard for "minimizing civilian harm." Could Israel have done more to minimize civilian harm with that attack? Perhaps, but that doesn't mean they did nothing.


timing - The fact that they were triggered to explode en masse does not imply there was zero consideration to minimizing civilian harm. However, the fact that only Hezbollah leaders had these pagers, and the fact that the explosives were small, does imply there was deep consideration to minimizing civilian harm.

location - they all exploded on the person of hezbolllah leaders or in their possession in a belligerent country during wartime

possession - Israel has a laudable and low civilian: militant kill ratio, possibly the best in the history of modern combat. The pagers were encrypted military devices with military messages, there was no known use by doctors or non Hezbollah operatives.


Unless you’re a Lebanese doctor?

Not to you specifically, but it is astounding how indiscriminate terrorism is lauded as “brilliant”. Is it because the victims were not of the white Judeo-Christian variety? Seriously trying to understand the mental gymnastics here.


Doctors don't use pagers anymore, just like tech on calls used to and don't anymore. Mobile phones are far superior for that, and are very available anywhere in the world, and especially to doctors

Regarding whether that's brilliant, that is not my wording, but generally it was quite mild compared to the methods of Hezbollah and was highly successful in ending a war with very little bloodshed. The other alternative was tried in 2006 and in Gaza, and fighting a terror organization entrenched in an urban setting means bombings and killing civilians in the process. This was not the end result as Hezbollah fell apart relatively quickly afterwards, so I think it was good compared to any alternative for Lebanese and Israelis


> Doctors don't use pagers anymore,

The UK's National Health Service (NHS) is widely considered the single largest user of pagers in the world, with over 130,000 devices in use as of recent years. This figure represented an estimated 10% of the total number of pagers remaining globally.


Doctors still use pagers. I don’t know about Lebanon in particular, but I would wager they still use them there too.

The rest is a bunch of hypotheticals. I am also unsure where the conclusion that Hezbollah is dead is coming from. Was their operational capability degraded? Of course. Is the group dead? Absolutely not.


Regarding the pagers in any case these were specially imported by hezbollah, so these were not used by doctors, even if we assume they only use pagers in Lebanon.

Regarding the group, it has signed a cease fire agreement with very unfavorable terms which essentially let Israel bomb any of its members or locations that violate the terms of the cease fire agreement and the lebanese army did not work to resolve, this happens on a weekly basis since the end of the war

If you compare this state to the state just prior to October 2023 where Hezbollah had setup a tent in Israeli territory which Israel was too afraid to do something about for months over fear of starting a war, then this is essentially a complete break up in my opinion.

Is it dead? no. it's alive enough to keep lebanon in its permanent failed state status due to fear of all other sects of civil war. But together with what happened to its patron, and the local popularity it lost it might break up completely


Hezbollah has a political/civilian arm.

This is my last reply in this thread.


I am aware of that, and hopefully they will become a Lebanese political party without an armed wing, similar to all other political parties, which are most essentially led by former warlords involved in mass killings

Hezbollah operates hospitals and medical services. It's not just a political party.

They didn't put bombs in pagers that were freely sold. They put them into shipments for Hizbollah specifically.

1. I was responding to the incorrect point that pagers are not used by civilians.

2. You are aware that Hezbollah has a civilian/political arm, right?

3. Surely Israel - the most moral country on the planet - painstakingly vetted pager possession before detonating them en masse?


> Unless you’re a Lebanese doctor?

Where would a Lebanese doctor get an encrypted pager bought by Hezbollah and given to Hezbollah members with the explicit use for communicating with other Hezbollah members?


Growing tired of repeating the same response to the same points. Please see on of my other replies to sibling comments.

The idea that only criminals or terorists have pagers is ridiculous(you mentined doctors). But Israel didnt target pagers in Lebanon. They sold equipment for Hezbollah internal use om their own network (they convinced Hezbollah to pay a front company for the walkies).

That is the opposite of indicrimante.

as for

> white Judeo-Christian variety

Judeo Christian is a silly concept. Either say christian or say Abrahamic. While most casulties were affiliated with Hezbollah and therefore overwhelmingly Shia Muslim enough of the general public of Lebanon is Christian that they would make at least some of civilian bystanders injured. Also Lebanese people aren't any whiter in average skin color then the average Israeli


That's not the argument. Presumably a broad cross-section of Lebanese people have pagers. But only Hezbollah combatants had these pagers, which were specifically procured by Hezbollah through an idiosyncratic suppler, linked to Hezbollah's own military encrypted network, and triggered by a pager message encrypted to that network.

Tailscale (and similar services) is an abstraction on top of Wireguard. This gives you a few benefits:

1. You get a mesh network out of the box without having to keep track of Wireguard peers. It saves a bunch of work once you’re beyond the ~5 node range.

2. You can quickly share access to your network with others - think family & friends.

3. You have the ability to easily define fine grained connectivity policies. For example, machines in the “untrusted” group cannot reach machines in the “trusted” group.

4. It “just works”. No need to worry about NAT or port forwarding, especially when dealing with devices in your home network.


Also it has a very rich ACL system. The Immich node can be locked out from accessing any other node in the network, but other nodes can be allowed to access it.

I am particularly interested in coops as a model for a tech startup. How would one go about structuring a new corporation to best ensure it remains a coop?



Thank you for the links!


Igalia (https://www.igalia.com), also Spanish, is a fairly prominent tech company that is also a co-op.

Galois, Inc. (https://www.galois.com) is employee-owned, and they do lots of great formal methods work.

But not sure whether this model is appropriate for a startup. I guess splitting stock more evenly is a good starting point.


Plenty of worker owned software consultancies in germany, and specially in Hamburg for some reason.

From the site of one that I that I used to work for(they are very friendly so you can hit them up if you want some advice on setting up one)

> How exactly are you structured?

> In our search for a structure that consistently implements the principles of responsible ownership, we came across the veto-share model. First, the principles are enshrined in the company's articles of association. Then, company shares are transferred to a controlling shareholder. This controlling shareholder is granted veto rights, which must be used to prevent any future deviation from the principles. We are delighted to have the Purpose Foundation on board as our controlling shareholder!

> We want to offer every (new) team member the long-term prospect of assuming entrepreneurial responsibility as a co-owner. The criteria for this are already defined in the articles of association. To simplify joining and leaving, we have established dyve Trust eGbR, a partnership that holds 99% of the voting rights in dyve.

https://dyve.agency/warum-wir-es-tun


Thanks!



Absolutely crazy.. I never expected that the difference would be so drastic.


Nix is centered around the local Nix store and binary caching.

As long as the specific version of Erlang you’re using is present in either your Nix store or the global cache for your OS and arch (at cache.nixos.org), you should not need to compile anything.

And if you rely on custom builds, you can just setup your own binary cache. This is similar to remote caching in Bazel.

Some more details on Nix caching here: https://zero-to-nix.com/concepts/caching/


This is changing, because the ruling class of politicians and billionaires is discovering that things can actually change if they don’t control the narrative, especially in the age of social media.

Read up on the motivations behind the TikTok acquisition, or the attempts to legislatively censor certain topics on Wikipedia, or the myriad of knobs used by social media “content review” teams etc, or Chat Control in the EU, or going back further, the surveillance systems detailed in the Snowden leaks (why surveil if censorship isn’t the goal?).

It’s ultimately exactly the same reasoning as that used by the CCP, but in a more subtle and gradual manner. Yes, right now, the GFW is a different beast, but if we do nothing, I would wager that the solutions will converge.


Nah, you’re just not good enough. I for example would have never made that mistake when calling hover(int32_t) in C. And on the off chance I did, my reviewers would have caught such a simple mistake because they too are excellent C developers.

/s


My jaw reflexively clenched.


Good advice for presenting a TEDx talk. Bad advice for a technical talk.


If you don't care about the material, why on earth would anybody sit around for 15 minutes/30 minutes/an hour listening to you talk about the material. The sole reason for a presentation over a technical reference buried somewhere is because the presenter wants the audience to care about the thing they're presenting. If that isn't reflected in the presentation, it's not a worthwhile presentation.


But this was a technical presentation at a conference dedicated to the technology in question. A person stumbling across this on HN does not magically make them part of the target audience.


A technical presentation is a still a presentation, as opposed to a reference document. If you want to give someone a block of technical information, you do so in a reference document. You talk in front of a room full of people in order to convince them that this matters enough to bother.


Sure, but I don’t think this is relevant to the comment thread we’re in, which started off by sharing generic advice that mostly applies to TED-style motivational talks or “keynotes” at large conferences etc.


I definitely thought we were downstream of pinkmuffinere's critiques about not establishing a reason to be excited about the material. oops.


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