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This is... just not my experience at all. Passengers and transit workers alike ignore assaults. Even cops sometimes.

Anecdotally, I've had the opposite experience. However, the raw data shows the difference. Scientific American did a great article on the data released by the DOT in the USA.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-public-transit...


What were you surprised about though? My expectation was always that it would be better, for various reasons.

Is tech really that relatively cushy? Because I'd quit for either of these, and I don't have any reason to fear them.

How do you feel about Palantir?

That the capabilities of its technology are greatly exaggerated.

>Is tech really that relatively cushy?

Just wait till there is more supply than demand in programmers/tech. Then you'll learn how much the rest of the world sucks.

A lot of us here are earning in the top few percent of our countries households and we don't have to deal with any of the bullshit that people making 1/4th we do or less.


> Just wait till there is more supply than demand in programmers/tech.

Will this happen though? There's still a lot of work to be done, but principally I wonder if AI hype hasn't actually reduced the top of the funnel significantly. If non-programmers (i.e. those who might become programmers) believe the job "won't exist in six months", they are probably not going to set themselves up for that direction. Plus juniors starting work now will suffer from leaning on AI too much as well.

Overall I think it's counterintuitive. When I was growing up, it seemed obvious that my generation knew technology better than the last, and of course the next generation would be even more familiar. In practice though, kids these days are mostly phone-only. The ability to produce technological artifacts remains uncommon.


>Will this happen though?

I mean, it will, but trying to time the market is a hard game :D


> Uber’s refusal to fingerprint drivers betrays that they know they have lots of criminals on their rolls.

Is it normal to be fingerprinted for a job? It would be seen as an incredible overreach here. Then again, so would a drug test. Uber drivers in particular seem a vulnerable group, which makes forcing this a bit 'icky'.


> Is it normal to be fingerprinted for a job?

Depends on context. In finance or anything concerning children, yes. You’re given autonomy where others are vulnerable. On a construction site, on a factory floor, or in an office, where you’re constantly supervised, no.

> Uber drivers in particular seem a vulnerable group

So are their passengers.


I'm more concerned that Uber gets to farm fingerprints, than drivers are 'forced' to accept it, I suppose. Although I can't identify a clear harm or form of exploitation that would arise from Uber collecting prints, I wouldn't put it past them. Maybe a better middle ground is the licensure part of the government does the fingerprinting. Although not all cities regulate Uber in this way.

> more concerned that Uber gets to farm fingerprints

Every job and volunteer role at which I’ve needed to get fingerprinted outsources it. When I’ve collected fingerprints for a job, my firm never got a copy, just the report.


> Uber drivers in particular seem a vulnerable group, which makes forcing this a bit 'icky'.

You seem to be redefining the word “vulnerable” to mean the opposite. Uber drivers disproportionately are men without full time jobs. That pool of people almost certainly has a higher likelihood of criminal behavior than the population as a whole. Assuming finger printing actually works (which I’m not sure), they’re exactly the people who should have more scrutiny.


I mean vulnerable in the sense that fungible labor is vulnerable to the whims of the employer. In this case it might be for a good cause but in general the more leverage you give Uber over its employees, presumably the worse. Whether they have a higher propensity for crime, you're talking still about a very small minority of drivers. The law abiding ones still suffer the leverage from above.

>The law abiding ones still suffer the leverage from above.

This is how the vast majority of compliance regulations work. You the law abiding person don't want to file bank paperwork, or whatever, yet you do because some smaller portion of the population would fraudulently rob the population blind if we didn't.


Well yes, that is how many things work, but it being common isn't a great argument for it being good. With banking, for example, I'd much prefer a low-touch technological solution. You could argue fingerprinting _is_ a low-touch technological solution, although I'm not sure it's particularly good at enforcing who is who at driving time.

>but it being common isn't a great argument for it being good

Then step up and deeply think about the situation at hand and all it's ramifications.

When you see Chesterton's Fence don't rip it out of the ground before you understand why it was built in the first place. Think of how you would make a system with the least problems (you can't solve all problems without infinite costs or infinite loss of freedom).


In roles where you're trusted with a lot of power over other people, absolutely. You won't get fingerprinted in a restaurant or store, but everyone in a hospital or a school should be.

In many countries, taxi licensing requires an ID/criminal background check, to ensure people with rape convictions don’t end up alone with drunk vulnerable people.

It may not require fingerprinting, but it’s certainly stricter than many jobs.


Yeah, but that's the government doing the sensitive parts, typically.

Uber drivers have to verify their driver's license, so it should be pretty easy to keep track of abuse.

Driving for Uber isn't a job, it is a gig, which is different, and why Uber doesn't have to give benefits or pay like it is a job. Uber spent TONS of money lobbying and electioneering for this position.

Being fingerprinted is required to obtain a law license.

vulnerable how?

From my other reply:

> I mean vulnerable in the sense that fungible labor is vulnerable to the whims of the employer. In this case it might be for a good cause but in general the more leverage you give Uber over its employees, presumably the worse. Whether they have a higher propensity for crime, you're talking still about a very small minority of drivers. The law abiding ones still suffer the leverage from above.


The expected time you spend on it is much less than the expected time they'll spend on it.

I suppose you could interpret it either way, but having dealt with their interview pipeline I'd choose the snark.

Yeah, a nerd bypassed HR and showed their true character. They are swimming in easy money.

Please cite reliable studies rather than just-so stories.

Well, yes? At least, I've never force-fed a toddler.

You feed toddlers long enough, something like this happens.

Please don't gavage children. That's (presumably) more psychologically damaging than social media.

You cant just eat the chips and leave the fish.

No ice cream till you eat some more of your greens.


More "no Facebook until you've done your homework" than "the government is going to ban ice cream and that's a good thing", though.

The practices may be well documented but the studies are... flimsy. Please send meta analysis for my consumption.

Sadly I don't think these are unpopular policies. At least not before they are implemented. The British public love a good ban.

If it's for a positive outcome, yes.

You can present anything as positive. Ever since Lady Chatterley's Lover.

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